Zen the Literary Movement

Re: Zen the Literary Movement

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:41 am

Huseng wrote:
LastLegend wrote:How do you squeeze Bodhidharma and his lineage into all of this?


The first account of Bodhidharma has him as a Persian. The following account has him as an Indian.

I'm sure there was a Bodhidharma, but as to the details of his life and legacy, you have to look at the literature for that, and the factuality of it is in debatable.


Is he considered a literary movement also?
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Re: Zen the Literary Movement

Postby Indrajala » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:41 pm

LastLegend wrote:
Huseng wrote:
LastLegend wrote:How do you squeeze Bodhidharma and his lineage into all of this?


The first account of Bodhidharma has him as a Persian. The following account has him as an Indian.

I'm sure there was a Bodhidharma, but as to the details of his life and legacy, you have to look at the literature for that, and the factuality of it is in debatable.


Is he considered a literary movement also?


He is a literary figure.
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Re: Zen the Literary Movement

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:17 pm

Huseng wrote:He is a literary figure.


Hui Neng too?
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Re: Zen the Literary Movement

Postby Indrajala » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:20 pm

LastLegend wrote:
Huseng wrote:He is a literary figure.


Hui Neng too?


I'm not saying they didn't exist, just that in probability their hagiographies were stretched a considerable amount.
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Re: Zen the Literary Movement

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:25 pm

Huseng wrote:
LastLegend wrote:
Huseng wrote:He is a literary figure.


Hui Neng too?


I'm not saying they didn't exist, just that in probability their hagiographies were stretched a considerable amount.


You still think Zen is a literary movement?
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Re: Zen the Literary Movement

Postby Indrajala » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:10 pm

LastLegend wrote:You still think Zen is a literary movement?


I think it was and is largely a literary movement.
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Re: Zen the Literary Movement

Postby Lazy_eye » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:22 pm

Huseng wrote:
LastLegend wrote:You still think Zen is a literary movement?


I think it was and is largely a literary movement.


And a very significant one at that! Hard to imagine Chinese literature without it.
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