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Metta towards animals?

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Stiphan
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Metta towards animals?

Postby Stiphan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:53 pm

Would it be unwholesome for one to include one's pet in one's metta bhavana?

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:08 pm

would it be unwholesome to include oneself, family or friends in standard practice?


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Metta towards animals?

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby bodom » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:21 pm

I always include my animals in my metta practioce as well as all the sick, homeless and hungry animals in the world.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby Dan74 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:43 pm

Metta is for sentient beings. And animals are sentient.

This is also something that really needs a bit of attention in our times, I think. The way animals are treated, the rights they are accorded... It's a sad sad situation, IMO.

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby Chula » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:44 pm

From Karanīya Metta Sutta (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html):

"Think: Happy, at rest,
may all beings be happy at heart.
Whatever beings there may be,
weak or strong, without exception,
long, large,
middling, short,
subtle, blatant,
seen & unseen,
near & far,
born & seeking birth:
May all beings be happy at heart."

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:47 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:24 am

In Ajahn Brams book Minfulness bliss and beyond he tells of using the thought of a kitten to jumpstart his metta practice .

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby BlackBird » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:49 am

I find it a lot easier to be friendly towards animals than I do some humans, put it that way ;)
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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:25 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby AdvaitaJ » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:33 am

The birds have vanished down the sky. Now the last cloud drains away.
We sit together, the mountain and me, until only the mountain remains.
Li Bai

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby Stiphan » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:36 pm

Right, what I meant was: usually we send metta to five persons - an extremely intimate, a lovable, an indifferent, an unpleasant, and a hostile one. Could one include one's pet in one of these, e.g. as a 'lovable'?

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:53 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Metta towards animals?

Postby Aloka » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:49 pm

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In the Amaravati Monastery chanting book, the chant of the Buddha's words on loving kindness includes:

" May all living beings be at ease.
Whatever living beings there may be,
Whether they are weak or strong, omitting none."


:anjali:


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