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How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

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How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby alan » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:52 pm

This sort of question has been bugging me lately. Devas, Asuras, planes of this or that. Beings who live for Eons in other realms. Were these just accepted ideas at the time, and said to "householders" in an attempt to relate the teachings to their beliefs? Was it particular to the Buddha?
Love to hear your thoughts.
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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby cooran » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:07 pm

Hello alan, all,

You may find this chapter helpful on the Realms of Existence in the book by Ven. K. Sri Dhammananda - the whole book is worth keeping as an initial reference.

What Buddhists Believe Venerable K. Sri Dhammananda
http://www.dharmaweb.org/index.php/Dr._ ... _Existence

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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby pink_trike » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:34 am

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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby cooran » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:32 am

Hello all,

Buddhist Cosmology - Rev. Tri Ratna Priya Karuna
http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma2/budcosmo.html

What do you think?

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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby Laurens » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:28 pm

I don't tend to spend an awful lot of time thinking about this kind of thing. Maybe it is useful to some practitioners, I don't know. However for me, thinking about cosmology, doesn't benefit my practice, so I don't tend to partake in it.
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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:29 pm

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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby Kim OHara » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:20 pm

Hello, SDC,
Just by way of encouragement: your post was fine - for a second post or any other post. Keep thinking, keep contributing. :smile:

You seem to be looking for ways to make the cosmology logically consistent with itself and with western science. It would be good if it could be done, but I don't think it can. Sure, we can find points of agreement and points of similarity but there are enough differences to stop them coming together completely.
And neither side will (or can) let the differences be ignored.
Science always asks for proof of anything it is asked to accept - that's what makes it science.
Religion nearly always refuses to negotiate, saying, 'We believe this unquestioningly because it comes to us from our highest authority.' Buddhism is, by far, not the worst in this way but there are certainly Buddhists who show this attitude.
So what do we, as modern people in a world that runs on science, do?
The Dalai Lama, no less, has said that where Buddhist cosmology conflicts with science, Buddhist cosmology must give way. That's good enough for me.

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Re: How does Buddhist cosmology relate to mundane experience?

Postby pink_trike » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:08 pm

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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