Electronic Dzogchen

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Sönam » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:46 pm

A lot of confusion ... And I'm not sure everyone is speaking of the same thing.

Astus,
You try to use the dualistic mind environment to catch precisely a non-dual experience. If the experience is non-dual, how can a difference between teacher and practitioner mind be perceived?. synchronization does not need to be in the same geographical space ... it would not need to be in the same time either, but then then experience is of a much more higher level ...

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By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby padma norbu » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:52 pm

"Use what seems like poison as medicine. We can use our personal suffering as the path to compassion for all beings." Pema Chodron

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Astus » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:51 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby username » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:18 am

Dzogchen masters I know say: 1)Buddhist religion essence is Dzogchen 2)Religions are positive by intent/fruit 3)Any method's OK unless: breaking Dzogchen vows, mixed as syncretic (Milanese Soup) 4)Don't join mandalas of opponents of Dalai Lama/Padmasambhava: False Deity inventors by encouraging victims 5)Don't debate Ati with others 6)Don't discuss Ati practices online 7) A master told his old disciple: no one's to discuss his teaching with some others on a former forum nor mention him. Publicity's OK, questions are asked from masters/set teachers in person/email/non-public forums~Best wishes

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby mindyourmind » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:04 am

There could be a little teaching in here somewhere for us also - something about "reality" and the people we regard as "real", when is something received and when are we really "face to face". It's there somewhere, I must just find it - when I have more time :smile:
Dualism is the real root of our suffering and all of our conflicts.

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Sönam » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:25 am

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
- Longchen Rabjam -

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Pero » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:42 am

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Astus » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:58 am

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Pero » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:25 am

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Astus » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:44 am

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Pero » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:16 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby mindyourmind » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:42 pm

Dualism is the real root of our suffering and all of our conflicts.

Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Astus » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:04 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Astus » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:14 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Pero » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:17 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Astus » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:25 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby mindyourmind » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:32 pm

Dualism is the real root of our suffering and all of our conflicts.

Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Pero » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:38 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Astus » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:42 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Electronic Dzogchen

Postby Malcolm » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:25 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


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