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Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby Fa Dao » Thu May 26, 2011 11:43 pm

Been reading this book lately. Just have to say...what an incredibly cool and entertaining way to present the Dzogchen Teachings!!! It's as though one were having a conversation with the Enlightened Nature...very cool...makes me laugh with joy
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby padma norbu » Sun May 29, 2011 5:31 pm

I'm going to have to try to read this again, now that I have a few years experience under my belt. I remember it was one of the first things I got and it was just confusing to me. I remember being hungup on whether or not these beings were supposed to actually exist but also had no clue what they were talking about. Pretty sure it will make a lot more sense to me now.

BTW, didn't Jim Valby put out volume 1 of a 2-volume set about this as well?
http://sites.google.com/site/jimvalbythings/

I've been wondering what the difference is exactly. I know Jim's is a heck of a lot longer, but I'm not sure why.
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby Pero » Sun May 29, 2011 5:46 pm

That's Jim's translation of the Kunjed Gyalpo plus the commentary on it.
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldy desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby padma norbu » Sun May 29, 2011 7:10 pm

Hm, interesting. I'd like to see the commentary. Is the translation of Kunjed Gyalpo itself much different from Namkhai Norbu's?
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby Pero » Sun May 29, 2011 8:17 pm

padma norbu wrote:Hm, interesting. I'd like to see the commentary. Is the translation of Kunjed Gyalpo itself much different from Namkhai Norbu's?

I haven't compared them. The translation is by Adriano Clemente BTW.
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby mint » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:15 pm

padma norbu wrote:BTW, didn't Jim Valby put out volume 1 of a 2-volume set about this as well?
http://sites.google.com/site/jimvalbythings/

I've been wondering what the difference is exactly. I know Jim's is a heck of a lot longer, but I'm not sure why.


Has anybody gotten this? Is it recommended for a beginner like me - that is, would it be a good foundational text? Or, is it likely to be overwhelming, confusing and ultimately counterproductive until after some experience has been gained?
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby Kunzang Tobgyal » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:51 pm

I have this series. Fantastic work. Not recommended for a beginner.
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:04 pm

mint wrote:
padma norbu wrote:BTW, didn't Jim Valby put out volume 1 of a 2-volume set about this as well?
http://sites.google.com/site/jimvalbythings/

I've been wondering what the difference is exactly. I know Jim's is a heck of a lot longer, but I'm not sure why.


Has anybody gotten this? Is it recommended for a beginner like me - that is, would it be a good foundational text? Or, is it likely to be overwhelming, confusing and ultimately counterproductive until after some experience has been gained?

I wouldn't say experience, but knowledge. It wouldn't be my first pick. Later on it's a must have, IMO, if you are going to practice Dzogchen. If not, then better leave it alone.
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby mint » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:15 pm

Dechen Norbu wrote:I wouldn't say experience, but knowledge. It wouldn't be my first pick. Later on it's a must have, IMO, if you are going to practice Dzogchen. If not, then better leave it alone.


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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Postby Norwegian » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:17 pm

Just as a FYI, Jim Valby's translation of Volume 4 (root text & commentary, chapters 41-57) is out now.

That leaves the following as remaining works to be released:

Volume 5, root text & commentary, chapters 58-84, Jun-2013
Volume 6, Longchenpa's Kunjed Düdön and Rinchen Druwo, Jun-2014
Volume 7, root text, chapters 1-84, with Tibetan critical edition, Jun-2015
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