username wrote:This morning IIRC ChNNR said briefly there are 4 stages (held up 4 fingers & counted) in capacity. First is having circumstances to have Dzogchen teachings. Second is your own diligence level. Third is your ability of the amount of keeping presence or being non-distracted. Fourth, gist of it as can't remember the exact few words, how often and how deeply you think about, contemplate or actually practice presence or instant presence itself.
I had to leave that morning's teaching and on listening to the replay (17th May, within first half hour), he added a fifth after some time, actually he said this five staged system is from Sutra system, but obviously fine tuned for Dzogchen capacity, so:
First is having circumstances to have Dzogchen teachings. Simply just being lucky to receive them, of course it's not luck but karma etc. etc.
Second is your own diligence level, developing and maintaining and increasing (on view/meditation/conduct).
Third is your ability of the amount of keeping 'presence' or as he defined being non-distracted and increasing that.
Fourth (unlike most other meditations which either have specific conditioned aims or do not reach beyond concept): Continually Increasing the Level of "Contemplatiton Meditation" which he explains goes beyond concepts and causality, so we can assume he means being in various states of Rigpa.
Fifth: Intelligence (He mentioned Sanskrit: Prajna, Tib: Sherab), develppment and increasing of: He explains this can be in simple language and everyday events and even normal gestures both for students' point of view and the skillful master, as his own root guru was doing all the time but he only realized after he got introduced successfully by that root guru. Does not have to be fancy or complex or scholarly. Again as for all other 4 stages, he means we can constantly develop this in view/meditation/consduct aspects daily in all circumstances by our constant integrated contemplation on the world, our thoughts and sense inputs (all non-dual as much as possible) in as a relaxed way as possible and triggered often by regular short remembering of being in the state of guru and get into that 'instant presence' as much as possible and slowly increasing it's occurance and durations. So all simple daily events can become new forms of Intelligence/Prajna/Sherab we can gather, and progress with, as all is simply adornment of dharmakaya anyway.
Dzogchen masters I know say: 1)Buddhist religion essence is Dzogchen 2)Religions are positive by intent/fruit 3)Any method's OK unless: breaking Dzogchen vows, mixed as syncretic (Milanese Soup) 4)Don't join mandalas of opponents of Dalai Lama/Padmasambhava: False Deity inventors by encouraging victims 5)Don't debate Ati with others 6)Don't discuss Ati practices online 7) A master told his old disciple: no one's to discuss his teaching with some others on a former forum nor mention him. Publicity's OK, questions are asked from masters/set teachers in person/email/non-public forums~Best wishes