Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby Malcolm » Fri May 20, 2011 6:18 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby tamdrin » Fri May 20, 2011 6:45 pm

that would be great if you did translate it Malcolm...

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby mzaur » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:20 am

So from a Tibetan pov, Zen does not lead to the same realization as Vajrayana?

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby Astus » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:11 am

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby mzaur » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:52 pm

Thanks. Why is it that sutra is considered inferior to Vajrayana? I know the texts say sutrayana is slower but where is there real evidence for that? Could that just be a way to get tantric practitioners motivated about their path?

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby Adamantine » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:06 pm

I think it may help the discussion to examine Chogyam Trungpa's view of Zen, which was informed by his relationship to Suzuki Roshi. If I recall correctly, Suzuki Roshi reminded him greatly of his own Dzogchen master Sechen Kongtrul. I will try to find relevant quotes of his when I have the time.
Contentment is the ultimate wealth;
Detachment is the final happiness. ~Sri Saraha

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby Adamantine » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:44 am

Contentment is the ultimate wealth;
Detachment is the final happiness. ~Sri Saraha

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby Sara H » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:35 am

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby lobster » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:44 pm

As far as I am aware, the awakened are non-denominational.
In fact they even transcend regional religions.

No doubt I am looking at it from the wrong shore . . . :thinking:

ah well :popcorn:

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Re: Tibetan Buddhist View of Zen

Postby zangskar » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:26 pm

I noticed that recently the Rinzai Zen Buddhist Society in Denmark changed its name to Buddhist Society, "to reflect that we are now less sectarian and have begun to incorporate Tibetan Nyingma dzogchen teachings into our practice". (translated from http://rinzai.dk/)

I don't know anything else about it, but it sounds interesting and possibly a very fruitful combination?

I imagine the future will see many more such attempts, as there will probably be more Buddhist teachers who know several different traditions, and who will most likely synthesize or combine to some degree in how they teach.

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