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Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Fa Dao » Mon May 09, 2011 2:43 pm

Does anyone have the inside track on when Red Pine's translation will actually be coming out? Have been looking forward to this for a very long time.
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby chihsung » Wed May 11, 2011 6:15 am

Manuscript was submitted to Counterpoint in April. Due out in hardback next January.
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Fa Dao » Wed May 11, 2011 1:43 pm

Wonderful to know, thank you!!
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Will » Wed May 11, 2011 4:05 pm

Will it just be the root text or have some commentary?
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Fa Dao » Wed May 11, 2011 7:34 pm

Will,
just a guess but all of his other books have very nice commentary I am hoping this one does too. I have been waiting for this for a very long time. I am a big fan of his translations/commentaries
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Indrajala » Wed May 11, 2011 7:39 pm

chihsung wrote:Manuscript was submitted to Counterpoint in April. Due out in hardback next January.


Hi Red Pine, thanks for registering on the forum. It would be a pleasure to have you participate and offer your insights wherever possible.
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Anders » Wed May 11, 2011 9:40 pm

Huseng wrote:
chihsung wrote:Manuscript was submitted to Counterpoint in April. Due out in hardback next January.


Hi Red Pine, thanks for registering on the forum. It would be a pleasure to have you participate and offer your insights wherever possible.


Good spot on the username. Thrown a bit there by the Wade-Giles.

At any rate, allow me to echo Huseng's sentiment. And thanks for working on this translation. It's been long awaited. :smile:
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Fa Dao » Wed May 11, 2011 9:44 pm

Chihsung IS Red Pine? Wade-giles threw me off too. well, dont I feel silly now. Seriously though...love your work. Hope you enjoy the site. Welcome
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby chihsung » Wed May 11, 2011 10:15 pm

The translation is based on the Chinese of Gunabhadra (with references to variant readings by Bodhiruchi, Shikshananda, and the Sanskrit) and does not include the "Sagathakam". It should run about 400 pages, sixty percent text, forty percent notes and commentary. It is currently being checked for the more obvious gaffs by Paul Harrison at Stanford and Dan Lusthaus at Harvard. Just happened to be cruising the web and found your site. Look like a good one. Keep up the good work.
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Fa Dao » Wed May 11, 2011 11:59 pm

Excellent that you decided to go with the Gunabhadra/Song. Did you also not include the first Ravana chapter as well?
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Luke » Thu May 12, 2011 12:44 am

Hello Mr. Pine,

I just wanted to say that I really loved reading your translation of the Tao Te Ching when I was a teenager. It inspired me a great deal. I should read some of your other books--perhaps I'll buy this new book you're working on when it comes out. You rock!
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby chihsung » Thu May 12, 2011 1:04 am

Thanks for the encouragement Luke. You're really going to want to buy this book. It will surprise you. As for Fa Dao's question, Yes, I include the first chapter, which I have rendered based mostly on Bodhiruchi and Shikshananda but also on the Sanskrit. Its a composite and begins the book, which then segues into the Gunabhadra text with chapter two.
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Fa Dao » Thu May 12, 2011 1:20 am

Sounds great!! I truly have been looking forward to this for years when you had mentioned in an interview that you would be doing it. I have used many of your translations for the Dharma classes I teach...specifically the Heart, Diamond, and Platform Sutras. In fact, if I am able I have been seriously thinking of trying to memorize the Lankavatara over a period of a few years as part of my practice. Just been waiting for your translation.
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Will » Fri May 13, 2011 10:40 pm

chihsung wrote:The translation is based on the Chinese of Gunabhadra (with references to variant readings by Bodhiruchi, Shikshananda, and the Sanskrit) and does not include the "Sagathakam"...



What is this Sagathakam that is not included?
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Astus » Tue May 17, 2011 9:58 pm

Will wrote:What is this Sagathakam that is not included?


This: Sagathakam
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Need tempering or refinement?
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This face, the face at birth."

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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby Will » Wed May 18, 2011 1:11 am

Astus wrote:
Will wrote:What is this Sagathakam that is not included?


This: Sagathakam


Many thanks Astus :bow:
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Re: Lankavatara Sutra

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Fri May 20, 2011 12:37 am

I too look forward to this book (just happen to have The Zen Teaching Of Bodhidharma Trans. by Red Pine in front of me. One of the best books ever!) and am glad to see this topic here.
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