Jñāna wrote:Ah, yes. Monks and nuns searching for loopholes in vinaya rules is about as old as Buddhism itself. Most of the Chinese monastics that I know follow the vinaya pretty closely. The Japanese no longer have any fully ordained monastics, which is one reason why I don't pay much attention to modern Japanese Buddhism.
Right. That's what I mean -- social conventions of one's time takes precedence over scripture. If everyone else is doing it, then it is generally perceived of as okay even if the scriptures clearly say otherwise.
Japan is a good example of this where a lot of conventions, even those laid down by the founders, are ignored and nobody objects because that's just the way everyone behaves now. The younger generation see that the older generation do it that way and carry on with it.
The same happens elsewhere, too.
Huseng wrote:Or not giving Bodhisattva precepts when somebody asks for them, and instead telling them to wait for some future date when they'll get around to scheduling it? The East Asian Bodhisattva scripture, the Brahma Net Sūtra 梵網經, says the preceptor is obliged to transmit the precepts to anyone who asks.
Isn't this just a matter of practicality?
It says you have to provide the precepts to anyone who asks. There is no clause saying you can defer it to some unspecified future time.