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To Question or Not To Question, That is the Question

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

Bhikku Bodhi.

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Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:12 pm

Apologies, I made a complete mess of quoting in my post above.
The point that I was trying ( badly) to make is that insularity can come in many forms. Including an apparent iconoclasm which is in fact a defence against showing a dirth of basic knowledge.
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The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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:anjali:
The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

Bhikku Bodhi.

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hello enkidu,

When you say "realized masters" .. do you mean contemporary ones? And, if so, how do you truly know they are "realized" and what, exactly do you mean by the term? And how would you differentiate this from a 'fan club' forming around a contemporary teacher?

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Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Postby retrofuturist » Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:39 am

Greetings Catmoon,

I think the difference between what Ben wrote and your friend's thought experiment, is that in Ben's example there is a conceptual link between the two (i.e. I have experienced this, and can therefore conceptually see how its application could be extended all the way to arahantship), whereas your friend's thought experiment has no conceptual link between the known and the possible, and therefore relies solely on trust.

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