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 Post subject: What is thinking?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:35 pm 
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When we think about realization of relative truth, what is that thinking?"

Is it mental energy, consciousness, karma? Display, grasping to something, "me" (and so not you :tongue: )?

Mental activity? What is active?

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
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2 question:

1. what is "realization of relative truth"?
2. why do you post this in the vajrayana forum?

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
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TMingyur wrote:
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2 question:

1. what is "realization of relative truth"?
2. why do you post this in the vajrayana forum?

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1.The second question is answered by the first one.
2. The realization of relative truth= impermanence, interdependency, cause and effect. :namaste:

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
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If you take a look at thinking, what is doing the looking? Mind has a quality of a mirror, and when you turn it on itself, it has a quality of two mirrors facing each other.

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
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muni wrote:
TMingyur wrote:
Muni

2 question:

1. what is "realization of relative truth"?
2. why do you post this in the vajrayana forum?

Kind regards


1.The second question is answered by the first one.
2. The realization of relative truth= impermanence, interdependency, cause and effect. :namaste:



Thinking: "If you put your finger in a flame you will burn it because the flame is hot."

Realization of relative truth: put your finger in a flame and realization will be the effect.

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
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catmoon wrote:
If you take a look at thinking, what is doing the looking? Mind has a quality of a mirror, and when you turn it on itself, it has a quality of two mirrors facing each other.



Great for contemplation. Thinking looks to essence. :thanks:

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
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TMingyur wrote:
muni wrote:
TMingyur wrote:
Muni

2 question:

1. what is "realization of relative truth"?
2. why do you post this in the vajrayana forum?

Kind regards


1.The second question is answered by the first one.
2. The realization of relative truth= impermanence, interdependency, cause and effect. :namaste:



Thinking: "If you put your finger in a flame you will burn it because the flame is hot."

Realization of relative truth: put your finger in a flame and realization will be the effect.

Kind regards


That is a clear example of no extremes or emptiness is not nothingness. :anjali:

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
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Another example, a very "standard" one:

Thinking: "Sound is impermanent, because of being a product"

Realization of relative truth: Hit a bell and realize.

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:04 am 
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Contemplation what thinking energy-phenomena is on itself, can really be subtle. It reveals subtle mind cheatings by digging in the mud of grasping, choosing creations related to objects. Those objects are a reflection of mind.

Ego-clinging get birth in it. Like an oister protecting itself when its' mantle is been irritated by something, the oister makes a pearl is me said. A pearl of ego?

In one approach, awareness, the thinking energy appears as wisdom and thoughts are having their own purifying power. In wisdom thoughts are not having a deluded quality. They are empty, arise spontaneous and can feed our awareness.

Practical example Mingyur. :thanks:

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 Post subject: Re: What is thinking?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:36 pm 
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I've never heard the flame metaphor before. I like it a lot.

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Laura

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