Enochian wrote:A jalu is nothing other than Sambhogakāya. Even Rechungpa, Marpa etc. bodies disappeared at death. Wouldn't you call that rainbow body?
Jalu, great transference etc. occur at the time of death. The physical body dissolves into the elements and the three kaya's manifest simultaneously. This is not "nothing other" than sambhogakaya. Sambhogakaya is in there for sure but there is a difference in the sense of how the realization manifests and occurs.
I wasnt there when Rechungpa and Marpa died so I dont know if their bodies disappeared or shrunk or whatever, so I dont know if they achieved jalu or not.
I havent heard any stories of them attaining it. As far as the namthar's are concerned they utilized different methods of attainment so perhaps they practiced phowa at the time of death or some other method but I wouldnt call anything rainbow body that wasnt rainbow body and the only thing that is rainbow body is when a Dzogchen practitioners body dissolves into the elements completely or shrinks at the time of death and they achieve the levels of buddhahood mentioned in my previous post.
You have still neglected to explicitly state what you think the contradiction is.