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E-Sangha

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Andreas Ludwig » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:22 pm

Hi Ben,

thanks for the welcome, nice to 'see' you again, mate. :smile:

Gassho

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:12 pm

Greetings Andreas!

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Metta,
Retro. :)
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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Individual » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:00 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: E-Sangha

Postby mudra » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:16 am

Ah, thought it was a hack. pretty major. If it was over what someone felt offensive, I have to say that the damage done by cutting off people to the resources in the forum was far more damaging. Will we never learn to curb our kleshas, especially in the face of others'?

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Annapurna » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:06 pm

It's a suspicion I have also read in other forums: That somebody retaliated.

We don't know.

But it's causing so much unnecessary suffering, which will eventually backfire.

It's like a virtual amok, if that's what it is.

If the hacker reads this: I bet you can't fix it.

Or can you? Please prove it... :hug:
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Re: E-Sangha

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:11 pm

I thought I would pop in from my voluntary self-exile from the internet, to say "Hi," and saw that E-Sangha had been malware-bombed. My most sincere condolences and may the problem be solved, the malefactors be brought to justice, and order be restored.. :group:

May you all be happy and well on the road to Liberation!

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Popping back out now; may drop in again in another six months!
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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:13 pm

• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby cooran » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:33 pm

Dear Bhikkhu Pesala,

E-sangha was trying to protect its large membership from people falsely claiming to be ordained and leading lay members astray. Therefore it required Ordination information and a photograph to be used as an avatar.

The actual reason you were banned from E-sangha was that, with you as the sole exception, every ordained bhikkhu/bhikshu of every Tradition (including Theravada) fulfilled the TOS by having as an avatar a photograph of themselves in robes as well as supplying other traceable information about their ordination. Every one. The negotiations with you to try to reach agreement were extensive.
You alone refused.


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Re: E-Sangha

Postby pink_trike » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:58 pm

E-sangha offers somes benefits, but its worth considering that it may also have a tendency to unskillfully create causes that give rise to undesirable effects.
Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Annapurna » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:13 pm

So, why did you refuse to allow a clear identification?
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Re: E-Sangha

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Dugu » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:29 am

Had no idea there were conflicts in E-Sangha. I guess Buddhists are no exception. :meditate:

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby notself » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:24 am

To be fair, Chris, Bhikkhu Pesala was given a tough time on E-sangha. I don't know how a picture would prove that a member was ordained or just wearing really neat robes. I would think traceable information would be more than adequate. By the way was any information provided every checked out?

Yes, Dugu, Buddhists are people with all the little flaws of the rest of the human race. :tongue:

I don't mean to :stirthepot:
Though one may conquer a thousand times a thousand men in battle, yet he is indeed the noblest victor who conquers himself. ---Dhp 103

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Individual » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:29 am

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: E-Sangha

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:39 am

While there may be things to criticize about E-sangha, this simply is not the place to do so.

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Ben » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:48 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby cooran » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:55 am

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby Dugu » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:58 am

How would they verify if the person who claim to be ordained are who they claim to be? It's not hard to use a known Bhikkhu's name and photo since you can get this kind of info from a web. Only way is webcam interview i suppose..

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Re: E-Sangha

Postby BlackBird » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:58 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: E-Sangha

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