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Re: claptrap

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:02 pm

In my humble opinion, the meanings we assign to words and concepts matter. Of course our understandings and priorities change, but we need to keep rebuilding these little rafts as we go because samsara is a wild ride! Just like love is best defined as an action rather than a feeling, so are wisdom, clarity, and other nouns of this sort.

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Re: claptrap

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Re: claptrap

Postby genkaku » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:29 am

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Re: claptrap

Postby Ben » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:33 am

Hi all

One of the most profound experiences I had in recent years occurred while I was sitting on a 20-day silent vipassana retreat in New Zealand two years ago. This was a full-on retreat for 'serious old students' where I spent approximately 15 hours of my 16 waking hours on the cushion and attempted to maintain awareness during sleep. Most of my time I spent in a meditation cell.

About half-way into the retreat I had done six days of samadhi and several of vipassana. My teacher uses a simile and describes the mind sharpened by way of samadhi and then cutting through the defilements in vipassana. Its spot on with my experience. Vipassana has been a formidable weapon in rooting out, facing down and eradicating some of my darkest demons. What I did not expect at around 10 days in, was that the cool all-seeing equanimous gaze that I had developed, would turn in and scrutinize whether what I was doing was of any benefit, whether my teacher was genuine and whether the Dhamma was just a distraction. I could see it all, all my fears my dreams, my hopes, my veneration for my teacher and the Buddha, nothing appeared opaque or resisted my gaze. It was an excoriating experience. Some of the conclusions I came to was that if it benefited me now and inthe past, then I should continue until it ceased to be of benefit. And secondly I felt that my experience, in a way, validated the efficacy of the Dhamma. I felt relieved that the method I used to investigate my reality investigated the efficacy of my practice, rather than leave me tunnel-visioned about the Dhamma.

So I don't think Genkaku is being disrespectful, dispariaging or disingenious. I've known Adam a number of years and I know no one more sincere in their practice. What I believe Adam is doing is reminding us that words themselves only point to the reality that they are employed to represent. Be forever heedful of what is actually there and what are merely fabrications.
Metta

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Re: claptrap

Postby genkaku » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:45 pm

Ben -- Twenty days and much of it in a cell -- wow! You've got more nerve than I have! Good on yer, mate!

And just to keep things in a little perspective, Ben ... I'm just one more liar among many. No joke. Liars are a dime a dozen. Sometimes they are our greatest blessing, sometimes our greatest curse, but either way, they are liars. Let's go find the one who tells the truth. :)
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Re: claptrap

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:08 am

If a liar says he's a liar, is he a truth-teller? Or a liar? :heart:


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Re: claptrap

Postby pink_trike » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:58 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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