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Under the fig tree

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Under the fig tree

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Re: Under the fig tree

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Someone else that is turned on, figuratively, by Nyanaponika's work and The Worn-out Skin: Reflections on the Uraga Sutta.
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Re: Under the fig tree

Postby pink_trike » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:29 am

If you continue to follow that fig tree through the mythologies of the world, your eyes are going to be opened much farther than you can imagine...be aware that the actual type of tree will change in some mythologies...you'll notice after a while that it is the tree itself that is of importance...though "fig" will be found commonly enough.

You may notice in your travels through the world's mythology that there is a pesky serpent that seems to hang around that tree...

You will also likely notice that the tree and the serpent have some companions that follow them around the world...familiar companions that you know from the mythology of Buddhism - but that far predate Buddhism.
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Re: Under the fig tree

Postby Guy » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:54 am

I have heard some strange theories about ancient stories involving trees and serpents, some involving... :alien:

What is your theory about the symbology of the tree and the serpent pink (if you have one)?
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Postby pink_trike » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:49 am

Briefly, there was once a global mono-cosmology (dates far back into the mists of time) that was based on astronomy (the movements of the heavens) concerning a particular aspect of the astrophysical relationship between the Sun and Earth and the effect that this particular aspect of this relationship has on the Earth plane and the solar system. Central to this scientific cosmology was the concept of the World Tree, which represents the axis of the globe and center of the world, which are two different but related phenomenon (World Axis, Axis Mundi, Center of The World, World Pillar, etc...). The Serpent was the particular aspect. The effect of this aspect and human being's relationship with this effect is the basis of many of the moral codes found in our premodern ancestor's recordings from around the globe. The dressings of this myth vary from culture to culture, but the main players keep turning up in nearly all of them, and common to most all of them is the development of a personal identification with the world tree that results in clarity, transformation, and release from the "burden of time".

Yes, a few of them reference :alien: including the Hopi and Tibetan Buddhist mythologies, and many of them speak of variations on this theme (visitors from other realms).
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Re: Under the fig tree

Postby Guy » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:59 am

Interesting, thanks for the info. :reading:
Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Postby pink_trike » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:02 pm

The Edda (old Nordic mythology that extends back into the mists of time) speaks of Odin, who after impaling himself with his spear to the world tree upside down for 9 days (killing of the "self") finally "falls" but retains extensive wisdom and knowledge from the depths (that is encoded in the Runes) and is freed from hovering between life and death as a result of having sacrificed his "self".
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Clear Light is Union
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Re: Under the fig tree

Postby cooran » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:57 am

"Empty Highway" is something very hard to find nowadays in India. Instead, bus drivers look for Legume fields for their passengers (Ladies to the left, gentleman on the right please). Legume fields have the best bushy bushes to crouch behind when attending to natures calls, to screen you from the incessant beeping of leering truck drivers.

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