The Diamond Sutra

by **thornbush** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:40 pm

Also known as the 'Vajracheddika Prajna Paramita Sutra' (Diamond Cutter Perfection Of Wisdom Sutra)

by **thornbush** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:20 pm

Found this site with the full Sutra sung by Kumuda (Sharon Janis): THE DIAMOND CUTTER SUTRA: SUNG IN ENGLISH

by **sraddha** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:29 pm

Nagarjuna found this sutra hidden in the dragon's layer. :smile:

by **Ngawang Drolma** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:10 pm

It's the oldest printed text in the world :smile:

by **sraddha** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:34 am

Here are some profound quotes on the kind of mind to be developed:

Here's another translation in addition to the ones by thornbush:
http://www.diamond-sutra.com/diamond_sutra_text/page10.html

"A disciple should develop a mind which is in no way dependent upon sights, sounds, smells, tastes, sensory sensations or any mental conceptions. A disciple should develop a mind which does not rely on anything."

"Therefore, Subhuti, the minds of all disciples should be purified of all thoughts that relate to seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, touching, and discriminating. They should use their minds spontaneously and naturally, without being constrained by preconceived notions arising from the senses."

by **Dazzle** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:31 am

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I have Thich Nhat Hahn's commentaries on the Diamond Sutra in "The Diamond That Cuts Through Illusion "

Unfortunately I haven't had time to read the book yet, its sitting on my shelf together with 3 or 4 other unread

items.

Perhaps I'll be able to share some of it here when I do get round to reading it.

Dazzle

by **zerwe** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:21 am

Just finished a recitation of this and my first exposure, and I would have to say, my mind is smokin'!
Shaun :namaste:

by **Jnana** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:34 am

There is also an English translation of the Gilgit manuscript of the Vajracchedikā Sūtra in Studies in the Literature of the Great Vehicle: Three Mahāyāna Buddhist Texts.

And another English translation of the Tibetan text of the Vajracchedikā Sūtra by Ven. Thubten Tsultrim titled The Vajra Cutter Sūtra.

All the best,

Geoff

by **Huifeng** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:07 am

Yeshe D. wrote:There is also an English translation of the Gilgit manuscript of the Vajracchedikā Sūtra in Studies in the Literature of the Great Vehicle: Three Mahāyāna Buddhist Texts.

And more recently, Paul Harrison has made a full translation from the Gilgit text(s) as edited by himself and Watanabe.

by **Jnana** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:12 am

Huifeng wrote:And more recently, Paul Harrison has made a full translation from the Gilgit text(s) as edited by himself and Watanabe.

Harrison, Paul. 'Vajracchedikā Prajñāpāramitā: A New English Translation of the Sanskrit Text Based on Two Manuscripts from Greater Gandhāra', contained in Jens Braarvig, Paul Harrison, Jens-Uwe Hartmann, Kazunobu Matsuda & Lore Sander, eds., Buddhist Manuscripts in the Schøyen Collection, Hermes (Oslo 2006).

by **muni** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:02 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_iaGEVS ... re=related

Opportunity to listen, mind-ear-explanation without mind running in the singing and other. :tongue:

by **Dexing** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:51 pm

Ngawang Drolma wrote:It's the oldest printed text in the world

The oldest dated printed book in the world, that is.

by **lukejmo** » Fri May 20, 2011 7:48 am

What would you say is the best English translation? In particular, which would you recommend for reciting?

And, also, does anyone know where/how I could get the Chinese version in print in the US? I know you can get it online, but I prefer the "real" thing.

by **PadmaVonSamba** » Sun May 22, 2011 7:15 pm

diamond sutra in chinese:
http://www.jingangjing.com/

http://taosculture.org/bookstore/11.php

by **lukejmo** » Sun May 22, 2011 10:48 pm

PadmaVon - what you just did for me, I spent hours trying to do. Thank you!!! :cheers:

by **PadmaVonSamba** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:23 am

I put "diamond sutra" into the Google translator, got the chinese characters and did a search with those. :jumping:

by **lukejmo** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:39 am

Ha! Oy... well, to be fair, last time I tried to find anything was a year ago, and nothing really useful came up. :shrug:

Thanks anyway!

by **PadmaVonSamba** » Tue May 24, 2011 5:03 am

I find it puzzling that in the Diamond Sutra (I am using the Shambhala edition translated by A.F Price & Wong Mou-lam), at the end, The Buddha refers to the merit gained from reciting "...even only four lines of this discourse". This is followed by a four line stanza, but is this what he is referring to specifically?

Also, as there are numerous references to 'offering up countless jewels' (and other precious things) 'numerous as the sands of the Ganges' and so forth, this reminds me very much of the mandala offerings associated with Mahayana traditions, and I wonder if there is something implied here.

by **Fa Dao** » Wed May 25, 2011 12:39 am

When studying any Sutra I find it very helpful to study at least 3 different translations with commentaries. Really does give one a broader perspective, and from there you can choose which one you would like to chant in English. I like these three:
The Diamond Sutra by Red Pine
Describing the Indescribable by Hsing Yun
The Diamond Sutra translation and commentary by Master Hsuan Hua/BTTS

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