Namdrol wrote: LastLegend wrote:
Namdrol wrote:Not, I did not misread you.
Bodhisattvas are not arhats in any sense until they become Buddhas.
Ok you are talking about 10 titles of Buddha. Then yes. But I was not talking about the title of Arhat as in Buddha.
In Mahayana, bodhisattvas are not arhats, not even remotely. They only become arhats when they achieve full awakening.
Stages 1-6 are the stages of stream entry. Stage 7 is a once returner. Stages 8-10 are never returners. Stage 11 is full buddhahood. There are no arhats in this scheme.
Ok if you re-read what I wrote in the first post, I did not mean Arhat as in Hinayana sense. I later clarified by using equivalence of Arhat as in Mahayana for someone who has achieved Concentration through Tantra, Chan, or Pure Land. When I said potentials, I meant powers (e.g., ability to walk over water, turning from small to large or large to small). Because of similarity in potentials for Arhat of Hinayana and equivalence of Mahayana and that they are not yet reaching Nirvana and One Dharma Realm of Buddha, I called them all Arhat...just words man, don't get too caught up with them, at least that's how I see it.
The Arhat you mentioned is just another way to say Buddha.
I am sorry for the confusion.