muni wrote:Then the discovering by science is clarifying what was before simple rejected by many.
It is generally accepted by neuroscientists that the mind or consciousness is an emergent phenomenon of the brain. So, no brain, no mind. Or no physical matter, no mind. The youtube video link that I posted reinforced the general neuroscience's position that mind or consciousness is solely due to brain activity. The various out-of-body experiences or visions seen by certain people are shown to be due to the interaction between their expectations (which is culturally conditioned) and the external magnetic stimulus. In short, under certain conditions, expectations leads to experiences and visions.
However to experience the enlightenment of a Buddha, a required condition is that you have to drop all wishes/aspirations/expectations. Therefore, the enlightened experience of a Buddha is not something that the results of the neuroscience experiments can disprove.
Thank you. (interactivity-interdependency I saw) Dreamlike of phenomena however experienced. I see their the unsubstantial activity which is not merely in the brain or we should see inside the brain. Mind-object field= nondual.
When science can prove clearly a contradiction in a investigation, makes it no sense to hold on ideas, still when science cannot prove for example what is not observable than I feel no need to agree but let it open.
As usually going off topic. Like the "mind", even completely dependent on the coarse phisical body, doesn't derive from material, or we should have same conscious experiences as our parents. When the consciousness clarity-knowing begins, as basis for experience, not so directly to show.
Also even "mind" relies on body, the possibility on some levels for independently of coarse body, I let it open.
Back to topic. I know not the term wishlessness but it appaers as the gates of liberation through "recognizing" the emptiness, beyond attributes, beyond expectation-aspiration as you write; cannot be disproved.
"The enlightened mind is not consciously created, not a product of circumstantial condition" Dalai Lama.
no more fabrications to add. Saw your youtube in other way (mind -objective field, interdependence), my mistake!
"Despite the fact that we are a ceaselessly transforming stream, interdependent with other beings and the whole world, we imagine that there exists in us an unchanging entity that characterizes us and that we must protect and please. A thorough analysis of this reveals that it is only a fictitious mental construct".
Shechen Rabjam Rinpoche.