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I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

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Dharmaswede wrote:
I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Thank you.

Best Regards,

Jens


"Machik's Complete Explanation" is full of descriptions of such beings.

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Dharmaswede wrote:
I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Thank you.

Best Regards,

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the book "Gods and Demons of Tibet".

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Also the famous text The 100,000 Songs of Milarepa has quite a variety of demons showing up here and there. . .and portrays Milarepa's experience of the demons, illustrating how an advanced practitioner may encounter these forces .

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Dharmaswede wrote:
I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Scuse me for being nosy, but, why?
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oracles and demons of tibet, by rene de nebesky and wojkowitz


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oracles and demons of tibet, by rene de nebesky and wojkowitz



right.

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Scuse me for being nosy, but, why?


Many reasons, but at this point mainly because I have an interest in Machik's teachings – and I think it is then pertinent to mull over what the terms demons and demonic denotate. Furthermore, as an absolute beginner I find it intriguing that there is not consensus among some senior Western practitioners as to whether demons are conventionally real, i.e. 'real' entities, or not.

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Scuse me for being nosy, but, why?


Many reasons, but at this point mainly because I have an interest in Machik's teachings – and I think it is then pertinent to mull over what the terms demons and demonic denotate. Furthermore, as an absolute beginner I find it intriguing that there is not consensus among some senior Western practitioners as to whether demons are conventionally real, i.e. 'real' entities, or not.

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This is because those that negate the conventional existence of the genii locorum in general are not understanding how the six realms actually function.

For the most part, the experiential realm of gods and demons is the same as ours, but it is cognitively closed to most human beings.

Those people who negate the existence of such non-human beings completely are like ants on a leaf arguing about whether humans exist or not.

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Ha! That's funny.

Actually, you won't get consensus about whether ANYTHING or ANYONE exists conventionally or not, so demons are just another example.

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I'm just clowning a bit.

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Dharmaswede wrote:
I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Thank you.

Best Regards,

Jens



the book "Gods and Demons of Tibet".


Can anyone provide me with the author's and publisher's name of "Gods and Demons of Tibet" ?

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someone did provide author's name....already.

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rene de nebesky and wojkowitz

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conebeckham wrote:
someone did provide author's name....already.

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So it can be assumed that Namdrol was refering to the classic book: 'Oracles and Demons of Tibet'. Sorry for my misunderstanding...

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No prob, and yes, that's the actual title. "Oracles," not "Gods," that is....

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