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What are the qualities of Nibbana?

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What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby sundara » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:47 am

So as I said in the title, what qualities does nibbana possess?
And is niabbana a state that you don't experience the world but a trascendental state?

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:41 am

Greetings Sundara,

This might be a good place to start...

Nibbana
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dham ... bbana.html

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby sundara » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:24 am

What does fabrications mean in this verse:
Hunger: the foremost illness. Fabrications: the foremost pain. For one knowing this truth as it actually is, Unbinding is the foremost ease.

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:43 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby appicchato » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:59 am

Fabrications, to me (in a nutshell) are discursive thoughts...

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby jhana.achariya » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:22 am

Fabricating. Mental fabricating. Discursive thinking.

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby kannada » Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:33 pm

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloa ... onary.html

nirvaNa* = m. or n. a country without forests L.; mfn. = {-vana}; ({-Ne}) ind. in the open country Pân. vi, 2, 178; viii, 4, 5 Kâs'.

nirvana* = mfn. having no wood, being out of a wñwood or in the open country MBh. v, 863 (cf. {-vaNa}).

nirvaaNa* = mfn. blown or put out, extinguished (as a lamp or fire), set (as the sun), calmed, quieted, tamed (cf. {a-nirv-}), dead, deceased (lit. having the fire of life extinguished), lost, disappeared MBh. Kâv. &c.; immersed, plunged L.; immovable L.; {-bhUyiSTha} mfn. nearly extinguished), or vanished Kum. ii, 53; n. blowing out, extinction, cessation, setting, vanishing, disappearance ({-NaM-kR}, to make away with anything i.e. not to keep one's promise); extinction of the flame of life, dissolution, death or final emancipation from matter and re-union with the Supreme Spirit MBh. &c. &c.; (with Buddhists and Jainas) absolute extinction or annihilation (= {zUnya} L.) of individual existence or of all desires and passions MWB. 137139 &c.; perfect calm or repose or happiness, highest bliss or beatitude MBh. Kâv. &c.; N. of an Upanishad; instructing in sciences L.; bathing of an elephant L.; the post to which an elephant is tied Gal.; offering oblations (for 1. {nir-vApaNa} ?) L.; {-kara} m. `" causing extinction of all sense of individuality "', a partic. Samâdhi Kârand.; {-kANDa} m. or n. N. of wk.; {-tantra} see {bRhan-nirvANat-} and {mahA-n-}; {-da} mfn. bestowing final beatitude MBh.; {-dazaka} n. N. of wk.; {-dIkSita} m. N. of a grammarian Cat.; {-dhAtu} m. the region of Nirvâna Vajracch. Kârand.; {-purANa} n. offering oblations to the dead Râjat.; {-prakaraNa} n. N. of wk.; {-priyA} f. N. of a Gandharvî Kârand.; {-maNDapa} m. N. of a temple, Skandap.; {-mantra} n. N. of a mystical formula Cat.; {-maya} mf({I})n. full of bliss VP.; {-mastaka} m. liberation, deliverance W.; {-yoga-paTala-stotra} and {-yogo7ttara} n. N. of wks.; {-ruci} m. pl. `" delighting in final beatitude "'N. of a class of deities under the 11th Manu BhP. (cf. {nirmANa-rati}); {-lakSaNa} mfn. having complete bliss as its characteristic mark MW.; {-SaTka} n. N. of a Stotra; {-saMcodana} m. a partic. Samâdhi, Kârand.; {-sUtra} n. N. of partic. Buddh. Sûtras; {-No7paniSad} f. N. of an Upanishad.
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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby Prasadachitta » Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:44 pm

Hi All

The way in which we experience qualities is governed by our interpretation of what is, what is not, what was, what will be, and where it came from. Since Nibbanna cannot be interpreted in these ways there is no point in thinking of it as an experience or in terms of having qualities unless it is provisionally helpful in terms of inspiration and the like. When the Buddha gave descriptions like "a cool cave" or "an island in the flood" I think they are meant to help us in a provisional manner. Qualities are experienced and as unenlightened beings we reference our experience with descriptions that attempt to classify an ever changing flood. Nirvanna does not have qualities in this way. That is why it is like an island in the flood.


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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby sundara » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:08 pm

In the book "Eight Mindful Steps to Happiness" by Gunaratana, he says that Nibbana is a state you can't experience it. It's quality is total peace and hence total happiness.

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Re: What are the qualities of Nibbana?

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:49 pm

fabrications in the context of talking of nibbbana refer to all phenomena that arises - every thing that we perceive from the six sense bases
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