Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:04 am

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:40 am

gregkavarnos wrote:Paranoia!

Of course there are a variety of economic and geopolitical issues being played out on the sidelines, but...
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greg you might be interested in this..

the confessions of an economic hitman.
its a very good read.


According to his book, Perkins' function was to convince the political and financial leadership of underdeveloped countries to accept enormous development loans from institutions like the World Bank and USAID. Saddled with debts they could not hope to pay, those countries were forced to acquiesce to political pressure from the United States on a variety of issues. Perkins argues in his book that developing nations were effectively neutralized politically, had their wealth gaps driven wider and economies crippled in the long run. In this capacity Perkins recounts his meetings with some prominent individuals, including Graham Greene and Omar Torrijos. Perkins describes the role of an EHM as follows:

Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly-paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and other foreign "aid" organizations into the coffers of huge corporations and the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources. Their tools included fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and murder. They play a game as old as empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession ... ic_Hit_Man


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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:29 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger


Assertion that Able Danger identified 9/11 hijackersThe existence of Able Danger, and its purported early identification of the 9/11 terrorists, was first disclosed publicly on June 19, 2005, in an article[9] by Keith Phucas, a reporter for The Times Herald, a Norristown, Pennsylvania, daily newspaper. Eight days later, on June 27, 2005, Representative Curt Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services and House Homeland Security committees, and the principal source for the Phucas article gave a special orders speech on the House floor detailing Able Danger:

Mr. Speaker, I rise because information has come to my attention over the past several months that is very disturbing. I have learned that, in fact, one of our Federal agencies had, in fact, identified the major New York cell of Mohamed Atta prior to 9/11; and I have learned, Mr. Speaker, that in September 2000, that Federal agency actually was prepared to bring the FBI in and prepared to work with the FBI to take down the cell that Mohamed Atta was involved in in New York City, along with two of the other terrorists. I have also learned, Mr. Speaker, that when that recommendation was discussed within that Federal agency, the lawyers in the administration at that time said, you cannot pursue contact with the FBI against that cell. Mohamed Atta is in the U.S. on a green card, and we are fearful of the fallout from the Waco incident. So we did not allow that Federal agency to proceed.[10]

Rep. Weldon later reiterated these concerns during news conferences on February 14, 2006. He believed that Able Danger identified Mohamed Atta 13 separate times prior to 9/11 and that the unit also identified a potential situation in Yemen two weeks prior to the October 12, 2000 attack on the USS Cole.[11] The Pentagon released a statement in response, stating that they wished to address these issues during a congressional hearing before a House Armed Services subcommittee scheduled for Wednesday, February 15, 2006.
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby justsit » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:19 pm

Oh, Heruka, don't you ever get tired of scrounging this stuff up?? All the hours you spend trying to do...what exactly?
Prove that the government is corrupt, that politics is dirty, etc.? This is not news.

It's samsara, it's greed, aggression, ignorance; do you really expect it be otherwise? Seriously.
Do you think that political solutions will eliminate the three poisons?
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:19 am

justsit wrote:Oh, Heruka, don't you ever get tired of scrounging this stuff up?? All the hours you spend trying to do...what exactly?
Prove that the government is corrupt, that politics is dirty, etc.? This is not news.

It's samsara, it's greed, aggression, ignorance; do you really expect it be otherwise? Seriously.
Do you think that political solutions will eliminate the three poisons?



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no!

im not like pulling my hair and teeth out over this stuff.

its in plain sight and open to any a mind that has interest, if no interest just switch over to another channel with reality tv show is all. but it does not make it go away.

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i back up everything i say with documentation.

a rare thing these days online.
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:11 am

Heruka wrote:greg you might be interested in this..
the confessions of an economic hitman.
its a very good read.
I saw an interesting documentary where an economic hit man working here in Greece, to destabilise the economy and bring about the current situation so that the profiteers could make their killing off of the backs of the working people, confessed and uncovered all his dirty deals. He was an American working out of the US consulate here in Greece*.
Knowing this did not/can not change the current economic situation.
People are not interested in learning anyway, a soon as they see the slightest opportunity for profit...
When I first came to Greece from Australia in 1996 it was just after the orchestrated stock market "crash" in Australia which was followed by a period of neo-liberal economic policy. Greece was still living its "socialist" period (like Australia had under the Australian Labour Party governance).
It was like stepping into a economic/political time warp. The stock market was being fiddled with in order to encourage small investors to throw their money into high risk (and high profit) stocks, the news broadcasts read like stock reports, stock brokers were popping up everywhere (I was living in a rural town of 3000 people and there were two stock brokers offices with live feeds!), farmers were taking their agricultural subsidies and gambling them on high risk stocks, etc...
I was like: “people, this and this is going to happen, you are all going to lose your money, better to invest in low risk stocks bringing slow and steady profits, etc...”
Did anybody listen to me? NO!
Then, one day, completely “out of the blue”, major stock holders started to sell off large holdings, the small guys had no idea of what this meant and kept holding onto their stocks hoping that profits would start to increase again. Yeah, like for sure! After all those who were “in the know” had drained all the money out of the stock market all the goat herders were left holding onto their weeners.
This started the downward spiral that has lead to the current economic tragedy where the socialist party is being “forced” to implement neo-liberal policy otherwise the IMF and EU won’t loan them money to fund the functioning of the state. In Australia it was a little different because it was a neo-liberal government looking to implement it policies and requiring a reason to justify its policies. The outcome was/will be the same: concentration of wealth and capital in even fewer hands, lower standards of living for the rest of the population.
Australia came out of its slump by expanding their mining industry, here in Greece it is all set up in order to “force” the government into petroleum exploration in the Aegean Sea. Of course the government won’t have the capital to fund it so the rights (and the profits) will go to the large multi-nationals (again) and since these companies operate off-shore the government won’t even gain from taxes that could have been imposed.
One major flaw in this plan is the role of Turkey. You see the petroleum deposits are in the sea, and some of the deposits lie in areas that, according to international laws on sea boundaries, can be claimed by both states. Imagine that here, on the island Lesbos where I live, the Turkish coast is less than 4 miles away! Then, of course, there are the ecological consequences if an oil spill happens in the Aegean Sea, add to that the fact that a large proportion of Greeces foreign income comes from tourism (sun and sea). It’s a catastrophe in the making.
Apart from revolution, there is no way of stopping this plan from becoming a reality.
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*This detail i edited later into the post coz I forgot it.
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:17 am



the lefts cover.....

great post btw greg.
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Rael » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:45 pm

Obama was put in office due to divine intervention at the polling booths...

everyone knows this....

the most blatant republican vermin ended up voting for this man.

republican vermin failed....it was thought transfered for a day,,the divine turned republican vermin normal for a day

democrats got a chance due to divine intervention...
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:25 am

Rael wrote:Obama was put in office due to divine intervention at the polling booths...

everyone knows this....

the most blatant republican vermin ended up voting for this man.

republican vermin failed....it was thought transfered for a day,,the divine turned republican vermin normal for a day

democrats got a chance due to divine intervention...



there is no such condition as predestined fate.
only its idea.

divine intervention makes a mockery of the gods, and drags them down off their lofty thrones to intervene in trivial things.
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Rael » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:53 am

Heruka wrote:
Rael wrote:Obama was put in office due to divine intervention at the polling booths...

everyone knows this....

the most blatant republican vermin ended up voting for this man.

republican vermin failed....it was thought transfered for a day,,the divine turned republican vermin normal for a day

democrats got a chance due to divine intervention...



there is no such condition as predestined fate.
only its idea.

divine intervention makes a mockery of the gods, and drags them down off their lofty thrones to intervene in trivial things.


dude it was the most blatant sarcastic post i have ever made.....

do you have any idea the rants people made that God put him there....

of course i love to say republicans are vermin and any chance i get i will do so....war mongering oil barons...the lot of em...


why politic is in this forum is a mystery to me.
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:21 am

there's no fighting aloud in the war room.

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Heruka » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:31 am

Rael wrote:
why politic is in this forum is a mystery to me.



because as presented and served up yo you, politic is a manipulated dualism, it is designed to keep you in a paradigm, i.e. under a spell of control. Buddhism has incorporated many political undertones that have been exported to the west. by design. for hearts and minds.

it is a game.
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby justsit » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:13 pm

Of course it's a game. Again, this is very old news.

Red/blue, black/white, this religion/that religion keeps the punters focused on illusory trivial differences, meanwhile, the foxes merrily decimate the henhouse. Geez, they don't even have to "control" the people, just the media.
Sheeple will complain ad infinitum, but no action, as long as "divide and conquer" tactics work and bread and circuses keep coming.

Yes! Greed, anger, and ignorance rule!

So...what to do? Become a political activist? Cover the world with leather?
Cover your feet with leather and become a buddha?
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby Sherab Dorje » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:56 pm

Love 'em all, let Amitabha sort 'em out!
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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby justsit » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:13 pm

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Re: Obama's Left "Humanitarian" War.

Postby muni » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:27 pm

The Dalai Lama (great names are doing it) as many other Buddhists as well are very concerned about the military actions and our welfare which is also dependent like everything. One can at least develop a feeling of responsability and inform those who are concerned.

We can recite our holy great Buddhist texts in our peaceful modern temple with its suiting colors without any concern about each other. Lets get a bomb on our holy head, how far we run with our sutras? Oh but bombs only fall on others head, so what?
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