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Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:09 am

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Individual » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:20 am

What's confusing to me is that nobody seems to argue against the fact that a free translation would be more beneficial. But then, when somebody proposes that one be made, they claim it's not possible financially... Like Retro just said, this has been done with other religious texts, though they're smaller.

But certainly, the most incredible things are possible: If you believe the total alleviation of suffering, the elimination of war, poverty, disease, and so on, is possible... If it's possible to provide many different translations of Buddhist texts for sale and commentaries, and other stuff... Over several centuries, if hundreds of people work together, is it really IMPOSSIBLE for there to be a freely available Tipitaka? Why? You appeal to costs but I don't understand what those costs are, especially when, again, some of these translations have already been made and are already in the public domain. You basically suggest that you need to copyright translations to fund the creation of future copyright translations, to fund future copyrighted translations, to fund future copyrighted translations... But with all that overwork, if you made simply ONE really good free translation, that cycle of re-publishing and getting more and more funding would no longer be necessary. In fact, if there were several highly accurate public domain translations of all the Buddhist texts of the world right now, PTS and BPS would have no reason to exist (I'm not saying that's true now, though, since many obscure texts are still being translated and new manuscripts are discovered from time to time). The point is: Far ahead into the future, continuing the "traditional" model of publishing isn't helpful or sustainable. These organizations will find out when they find their work on Bittorrent or find volunteer groups and wikis crop up that provide translations which rival theirs in accuracy.
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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Individual » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:24 am

Making something that's copyrighted become public domain has no cost, because it's a legal decree. Like you said, they don't do it because it would hurt the work of FUTURE work, not the present ones.

I don't want PTS or BPS to make all of their stuff public domain right now, because they probably do have some obscure manuscripts, like the new -- gandhari stuff is it? -- that they need to work on, and I'm sure they have debates about how accurate certain renderings are, and so on.

...But again, once the translation has been made, there's zero cost to release it to the public. It harms future profits, but why should that matter, once all the translations have been made, and if they're darn good?
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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:59 am

Prof R.M.L. Gethin is the president of the PTS. He is an excellent scholar and a Buddhist. I'd love to hear what he would have to say.

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby bexiu » Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:27 am

yeah, vissudimagga free, you can download whole this book here: or here:

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby ancientbuddhism » Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:56 pm

Unfortunately the BPS/ATI .pdf copy is still not bookmarked and linked throughout the text.

This one is:

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:33 pm

I ran into a problem when searching Pāli words in the PDF. Words that were obviously there were not found if they included Pāli diacrtics. I discovered that this is because the font used is: , which uses ANSI encoding and not Unicode.

To find Koraṇḍaka, for example,you have to search for Koraóðaka.

See my LibreOffice Review page for a macro to .
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