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Discovering Theravada ...

Postby pererin » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:16 am

... no, but really.

I'm getting bogged down here. Can anyone recommend a good, systematic and reasonably comprehensive introduction (or introductions) to Theravada Buddhism which you would put in the hands of a beginner?

:reading:

With thanks,

Pererin

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby Element » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:00 am

by Bhikkhu Buddhadasa :reading:
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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:02 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby bodom » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:34 pm

What is Theravada Buddhism?
by John Bullitt

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... avada.html

:namaste:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:37 pm

Greetings Pererin,

See also the pinned thread on:

Introductory Resources
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=148

Feel free to post your comments and questions here or in a new thread.

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby pererin » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:56 pm

Thank you to each of you who went to the time and trouble of suggesting study material; I am trying to acquire copies, but my usual outlets don't seem to have all the titles you mentioned. I'll keep looking.

:namaste:

Mark

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby kc2dpt » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:17 pm

- Peter


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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby pererin » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:20 am

Following your good advice I started to put an order together on a certain well-known online book company. Instantly divining my intent, its computer helpfully offered me the following top titles to match my enquiries:

(1) Mindfulness in Plain English by Bhante Henepola Gunaratana

(2) In the Buddha's Words: An Anthology of Discourses from the Pali Canon by Bhikkhu Bodhi

(3) What the Buddha Taught by Walpola Rahula

(4) The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh

(5) Mamma Mia! with Meryl Streep

:jawdrop:

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:22 am

Greetings,

Any of the top 3 would be good.

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby Element » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:05 am

For me, the term "beginner" is vague, subjective but most of all, extremely dangerous.

If one studies certain Buddhist subjects & considers them essential then one will always remain a "beginner" because one will have never actually started.

It does not matter how many years that one has been a Buddhist. One will never start if one has wrong grasp of the teachings.

Buddha said in AN X.61 that the cause of ignorance is associating with unenlightened beings and listening to the wrong teachings.

Buddha has advised in teachings such as the Ani Sutta (on the internet) that his suttas connected with emptiness should be studied.

Of course, each of us can only recommend according to our experience. When I first learned Dhamma, as a beginner, I was taught about the sense bases and about how feeling, cravings (greed, hatred & delusion), attachment, self-view & suffering arose from sense contact and of course, how these things that generate suffering can be controlled and ended.

Thus when Bhikkhu Buddhadasa titles a book: "Buddhadhamma for Students", it is intended for beginners who aim to end suffering.

But if the ending suffering is not one's primary goal then I suppose some can certainly recommend other aspects of dhamma.

With metta,

Element :reading:

pererin

Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby pererin » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:53 am

As the OP of this thread I would like to renew my thanks to all those who have suggested material for me to study; I will most certainly follow these through as diligently as I may. I note that the work of Buddhadasa has led to a number of exchanges between contributors. May I respectfully ask that my specific thread not become a forum for debating his work, as doing so might thereby prevent others from contributing their own further suggestions, any of which I would be more than happy to receive.

I also note that Element considers the term 'beginner' (which I used of myself in my initial posting) to be "vague, subjective but most of all, extremely dangerous". I regret any unskilful use of language on my part, but I knew of no other word I should use in its place.

Metta,

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:17 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

pererin

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Re: Discovering Theravada ...

Postby pererin » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:29 am

Thank you, Bhante.

Metta

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