Ah yes, nice but falsifiable? Lumbini seems quite earthly though....
Ahem...re-Dhammakaya?Should we be building spacecraft instead of meditating?
Ah yes, nice but falsifiable? Lumbini seems quite earthly though....
Ahem...re-Dhammakaya?Should we be building spacecraft instead of meditating?
I think they need a bigger one.plwk wrote:Ahem...re-Dhammakaya?Should we be building spacecraft instead of meditating?
That is disappointing.PadmaVonSamba wrote:Cooper was a conspiracy-obsessed individual.
Conspiracy theories, lacking verifiable evidence, draw more and more external 'causes' into an ever-growing web of paranoia.
When skeptics demand hard evidence for extraordinary claims,
conspiracy-obsessed people often see those skeptics as part of the conspiracy.
it's a never-ending loop.
There is much more credible evidence, photos, videos, and so forth, of crack-pots than there are of visitors from space.
But even if there are visitors from space,
okay, so what does that have to do with Buddhism?
Your logic:Aemilius wrote:
Do You nevertheless admit there are secrets in the modern society?
It doesn't start like that, a more correct logic would be:PadmaVonSamba wrote:Your logic:Aemilius wrote:
Do You nevertheless admit there are secrets in the modern society?
A.There are things the government hides from people.
B.There are many things we wonder about ETs that we do not have answers to
C. Therefore, the government is hiding the answers.
Buddhism has this idea and capacity called all-knowing, sarvajña, knowledge of all existent things. Universe, its structure, content and nature, falls into the area of all-knowing.steveb1 wrote:I don't see that the ufo subject can be anything but tangential to informed Buddhism or informed Christianity for that matter.
If ufo's don't represent anything truly anomalous, we can forget about them;
If ufos are anomalous, we should probably try to identify them as much as we are capable of doing;
If ufos are supertechnology from non-terrestrial sources (including "Interdimensional beings"), identification may pose serious difficulties;
If ufos are a mix of non-terrestrial supertechnology / and/or cryptoterrestrial-ultraterrestrial beings and artifacts / and/or psychic/parapsychological creations of what Jung called the psychoid realm ... then they may not even be sufficiently physical to ever "catch" and dissect.
I don't see how any of these considerations impact essential spiritual questions - if we dismiss the fundamentalist notion that such manifestations must necessarily be "of the Devil" or, otoh, "angels of the Lord", then the phenomena become questions for science, parapsychology, depth psychology, mythogenesis, etc. The only Buddhistic concern that I can imagine would be to recognize - if appropriate to any particular phenomenon - as a sentiency which ought to be the object of Dharmic compassion.
Actually there is a natural and logical connection: When you attain the dhyanas, or states of meditation, you will perceive the corresponding objective realms, that exist on those levels of consciousness.steveb1 wrote:Aemilius wrote, "I don't wish that all buddhists should be in the category of "stupid ordinary people".
Agreed. I wasn't saying that Buddhists should be ignorant about ufos, the paranormal, cryptozoology and other "fringe" subjects. I was only saying that I don't see a spiritual connection or meaning in these kinds of phenomena, other than insasmuch as they may include sentient beings, the Buddhistic attitude would be one of Dharmic compassion toward such beings. The flip side to this is that Buddhistic Bodhi, redemption, enlightenment, etc., is not dependent on knowledge of anything except the Dharma. "The Dharma saves" - not ufos and the paranormal.
Wait, a politician from Arizona is trustworthy? What strange parallel universe are we talking about here?Jesse wrote: Note-worthy people from the conference: John Mccain, Fife Symington(Ex govenour of Arizona), The Ex-National Defense Minister of the USA, and many other current/ex Military Staff / high ranking dipolomats, politicians etc.
Karma Dorje wrote:Wait, a politician from Arizona is trustworthy? What strange parallel universe are we talking about here?Jesse wrote: Note-worthy people from the conference: John Mccain, Fife Symington(Ex govenour of Arizona), The Ex-National Defense Minister of the USA, and many other current/ex Military Staff / high ranking dipolomats, politicians etc.
This is indeed one of the best documentaries out there on UFOs.Jesse wrote: