effort wrote:i'm sure that a good teacher would be really a big help, but i dont have any right now. calm abiding is a really advanced topic, i just want to know is observing the breath from the mind is meaningful for you or not. it is something like observing both mind and breath or observing the breath from the mind or observing the breath from the eye corner instead of directly watch that.
Apologies for bringing up something that's off topic a bit before. When I've counted breaths or watched my breathing, I watched from the mind as you mentioned. If it caused me anxiety or agitation, I would return to counting and focus on the counting until you can go back to watching the breathing. And when you watch the breathing, it's just your normal body human process you're watching. It doesn't sound like you'll have the problem right now of getting too foggy from it.
Does that help at all? For me, watching the breathing doesn't cause me to become overly alert or to feel agitated, it's about just right for me. There is the foggy danger you mentioned for me more than anything. In fact I've fallen asleep sitting up plenty of times :emb But I could imagine how it could go that way and it might trigger anxiety.
I'm totally not a meditation instructor though, so please take this with a grain of salt!! This is just fellow practitioner support
Please tell us how it goes, after you try returning to the counting when you start to feel the agitation.
the problem is when i look at the breath from the mind, i dont know what do i looking at, is that a sound or shadow of physical sensation or imagination of breathing or just merely knowing of breathing?
i want to stop observing physical breath because it is going to be very un-relax, but how about observing the breath from the mind? is that helpful or i just cultivating a feeling of fogy calm?