Completion of the path of Tögal

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Heruka » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:45 pm

hmmmm.

like i said on page one of this topic, the fact that the visions are the main focus, that is the gorilla in the room for myself, my own personal opinion.

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby muni » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:00 am

Many expressing poetry is written through centuries.

Maybe we can encourage eachother to know all have compassion, all have wisdom, all have power of capabilty. This is our nature.

Then to remain aware of the nature of my great fabrications-ideas, i can do. Then clarifying words not discouraging.

When there is the idea to get some satisfaction by judging someone else ( dual misperception) bring ruin to own being while helpless guided by emotions, grasping thoughts, dragged as slave by them instead of recognizing them ( khorde rushen, antidotes...), using them by Bodhichitta, awareness. Not judging "advanced one" but (all encompassing) compassion and by that clarifying.

Vision is free from all obscurations.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby pemachophel » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:55 pm

"Thank you Pema Rigdzin, it might be the guys and this story could explain why they don't mention their teacher and lineage. However as for completion of the path of Tögal, for me that would be the rainbow body. I am very surprised of their claim to say the least. I read somewhere else about Tibetan yogis that claimed the "completed the path of Tögal" in a year or so but I just can't wrap my mind around this claim from either westerners or Tibetans. /magnus"

Yes, these are the same couple, and yes, according to Lama Drimed (by way of a Dharma brother of mine who I highly respect), there is, in his opinion, some problem with samaya involved. My Dharma brother, an old-time student of Tulku Urgyen, has met this couple when they gave talks in the Denver area a few months back and he was very impressed with them. In fact, my friend thought they were the most accomplished Western practitioners he had ever met. (I believe those were his words or very close to them.) For whatever reason, I chose not to go to those talks. Something just didn't feel right with me. I believe they showed pictures of their visions. From their activities, it seems they are looking for students.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Adamantine » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:35 pm

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby pemachophel » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:16 am

Marlusz,

Sorry, I've given all the information I know about this couple, and even that was hear-say.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Heruka » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:44 am

i still like the look of this couple, i think they would make for a very nice stop and chat over some chang or tea.

there has been some speculation and hearsay, but nothing concrete, so i would remain cautious, respectful, open to some possibility.

yogi can be open to any situation, with no problem.

you can travel around and stay in any place with anyone, again no problems if you are secure and confident in your own practice.

you may even influence the ones you think might try to influence you.


where is fear, but in the mind.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby muni » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:29 am

It is said; When one see all chatter is magic and all and all is own mind, not sure what condition is adding something other than to recognize where all wrong ones and little bit wrong ones and maybe wrong ones arise in the levels of judgement. They all 'arise' in my own limitations in thinking the wrongs really exists and all wrongs can be cleaned at once. So therefore now I take all the wrong ones as practice. :tongue: Then wisdom can discriminate to help.

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby muni » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:34 am

one make the insubstantial moon with a correct instruction packet.

rejoice, for all jewels on the Dharma.

http://dzogchen.ca/2010/12/14/rainbow-body-part-2/

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby florin » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:09 am

you might find this interesting...


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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby heart » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:22 pm

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby pemasomething » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:58 pm

Rob and Rachel Olds' teacher was Lama Drimed Norbu, who is Chagdud Rinpoche's Dzogchen heir. This is a fact.


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