Rael wrote:Aemilius wrote:
Please don't ignore the facts! It is a well known fact that medieval Europe got mathematics & other sciences from the islamic world, even the greek ideas were reintroduced to Europe through arabic world, etc...
And please look again what it says about the History of Science http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science Truth is the opposite of what you say.
Islam is only about 750 years old....The actual religion and belief that God gave the Quran to someone is totally unscientific. Islam is not Science as well...ROFL!!! Islam gave nothing to science...
Mathematics per say is not really Science , but yes some would argue it is.
The early Greek philosophers known as Pre-socratics
gave the west the foundations for their philosophy, religion, and the sciences.
I think instead of the word Science you should use Epistemology...lol....
psuedo science abounds ....and trying to meld Buddha's words and science is just not going to wash with me...ANYMORE...for like i said i did at one time....
Please for the sake of decent debate...could you show us some science in Buddhism.
Then if you so wish, some Science that came from ancient India or the pre islamic arab world, besides Math...
Islam is almost twice as old as you cite for a start. We are now in the Hijra year 1432.
And it is a fact that much of modern western culture owes quite a bit in applied science: astronomy, music, agriculture, mathematics, medicine etc to the Moors transferring knowledge which they in turn of course had received variously from India and so forth. But certainly the Islamic cultures did add to all this knowledge they inherited and transmitted it thru Spain to Europe. Not to admit this is a little myopic. For goodness sakes the Europeans were the last in on the land mass that extend to Asia to get the 'zero'.
And there were cultures before the Greeks (I know, I know it's hard for some westerners to wrap their minds around this but it's a fact) and even the Greeks inherited and developed philosphies etc based on what they got.
The reality is that mankind inherits ideas and techniques from predecessors, develops them, passes them on. It's called the greater civilization.
Now a little more specific:
Stating Mathematics is not a science might get you into a long polemic about what a science is. In Latin "scientia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science means knowledge, organized, tested etc. I would love to hear you tell a serious mathematician that it isn't a science. And I would love to hear you tell it to a Physicist or astronomer etc that their science relies on something totally 'unscientific', namely mathematics.