Fine, if there are breaches, report the posts, ban them (immediately), that i shan't comment, you may ban whoever that has violated the ToS. This is logical.
But my comments is targeted at the harsh speech was used. If you think that harsh speech is okay in any situation, " your comments are deluded, get over yourself", moreover you being the moderator of this forum, then I think I'm in the wrong forum.
(I would sure like to here our original teacher shakyamuni say that
If you've checked, some members did contribute valuable posts. In this case I'm gonna mention names, take for example Hanzze, check out his posts, if you still think he's trolling then I rest my case.
And as long as I've been in Dharma Wheel, I've never lost my temper and patience and use harsh speech(At least not showing that in the forum, since I can always edit what I feel and think). I've always tried to share what I know with others. Is that example enough?
The 4th precept.
"4) To undertake the training to refrain from false speech. As well as avoiding lying and deceiving, this precept covers slander as well as speech which is not beneficial to the welfare of others."
If I have seemed somewhat arrogant, then I'm sorry, I have no intentions to appear so. My point is that harsh speech in that situation was not necessary, but he had more arguments why it was necessary so I had to further comment on those. Those were my own thoughts and I have no intention of imposing them on anyone, if they wish to follow then follow it, if they wish to think I'm just some stupid guy on the forum then ignore it, I'm not saying that everyone must follow what I say.What I've said is not directed to anyone, I simply quote, thats all. I do not dare question anyone's vows or precepts or practice here, I just merely listed it out. If you think you're in accord with it, then think that I'm uttering rubbish and ignore me.
Namo Amituofo, I'm sorry if I have caused any anger, unhappiness or hatred to any of you. That is not my intention here. Please do not allow me, this unworthy being be a cause of your suffering.
Namo Amituofo, I'm sorry for questioning your practice earlier, that is truly my fault indeed.
Whatever it is, I shall take a break from this forum. I shan't comment further. Thank you for all of your time.
May you all acheive enlightenment swiftly!
I hope you decide to stay. Perhaps if taking a break, you could read around the forum more and become acclimatised to the nature of dialogue on Buddhist forums - it's not all 'harsh' I assure you, I've even seen some others here quote from scriptures, but neither is it required that members call a shovel full of manure a blissful flower.
Firstly, you have attributed posts incorrectly and mixed up my words with those of mr. gordo. No matter. Oh, Mods are subject to exaclty the same ToS as members, and are free to express wrath or have fun within those ToS.
Secondly, twice in this post you assume a motivation of anger. 'Loss of temper', 'anger' 'hatred' - oh, please.....I'm really tempted to use the phrase I didn't use before and say 'get over yourself' .
Third, you assume that our approach is not for the benefit of others, again failing to understand motivation or the nature of Compassion IMHO. Sorry, but again this post seems to be to be preaching down to people, most with several decades of practice under their belts and enough understanding of Dharma not to need telling off for what appears to you to be 'harsh'.
Fourthy you are rasing a 'straw man': 'If you think that harsh speech is okay in any situation,.....'.
Nobody wrote that they did, so why preach at them as if they had? You are deluding yourself that others need correction for a serious attitude problem, which you invented in order to issue a 'put down'.
As well as the above, you clearly mean to place yourself above others here:
'And as long as I've been in Dharma Wheel, I've never lost my temper and patience and use harsh speech..'
Hmmmm...anyone can have a perfect record of their driving skills, for example - stay at home and don't get into traffic.
In your reality, maybe others have seemed angry, in theirs they may not have. It's not for you to assume and lecture, but of course you are free to comment, and to receive responses on that commentary.
Ever seen Gelugpa monks debating, hurling words at each other, loudly gesticulating and looking keen to 'win' ? Of course, they are actually testing an argument and testing their own ability to convey it, and are not being 'harsh' or angry.
'Wrathful' gurus sometimes speak harshly, on occasion too. Sorry to burst the bubble. As I explained, I have a vow which instructs me to be wrathful (give the 'appearance' of anger', not be angry) when necessary.
Sometimes when a thread has descended into the realms of sheer daftness, such as (someone you regard not to be a troll) asking if killing is wrong or like 'banner'
, I think it's fine to have some fun or to tell someone they are trolling in plain words. Isn't that better than banning them, which may have far less benefit?
I agree fully with your premise, btw, but you are applying it here incorrectly and unfairly to a situation and to people who may wonder why you are showing such lack of 'awareness', to bring this meandering back to the topic.