Completion of the path of Tögal

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This American couple say they reached completion of the path of Tögal! Anyone know who their teacher is?

http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/about/

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[Pema Rigdzin]

Not sure what to make of this couple...

On a sidenote, apparently Batman is a togal practitioner too: http://thelostyak.com/2010/02/25/the-co ... oes-togal/

[heart]

Not sure what to make of this couple...

On a sidenote, apparently Batman is a togal practitioner too: http://thelostyak.com/2010/02/25/the-co ... oes-togal/

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[Mr. G]

Not sure what to make of this couple...

On a sidenote, apparently Batman is a togal practitioner too: http://thelostyak.com/2010/02/25/the-co ... oes-togal/

I like this!

This American couple say they reached completion of the path of Tögal!
http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/about/

[Heruka]

This American couple say they reached completion of the path of Tögal! Anyone know who their teacher is?

http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/about/

/magnus

I thought the art on the website was quite nice.

as a side note, being captivated by the visions is a glitch no?
I think an answer to inner self question, is in that observation alone.

[Heruka]

Not sure what to make of this couple...

exactly, they appear to be practicing , but at what achievement hard to know, so better to gently place flower at their feet and be respectful.

[Mr. G]

Not so wise to be selling books based on their visions.

And who is their Guru?

[Karma Dondrup Tashi]

Absolutely inane to discuss something like that in public if you are not a teacher.

[tamdrin]

while togal is nothing without trekchod, so the fact that they didn't mention that gives suspicion to their claims.

[Heruka]

while togal is nothing without trekchod, so the fact that they didn't mention that gives suspicion to their claims.

what have they claimed?

[Mr. G]

while togal is nothing without trekchod, so the fact that they didn't mention that gives suspicion to their claims.

what have they claimed?

They share the unique perspective that their completion of the path of Tögal brings to encourage recognition that this Earth, this vision we call life, is a sacred offering.


And...they have books for sales on the visions they had in meditation!

[tamdrin]

this will be more useful than their stuff


http://www.rinpoche.com/karmechagme/kar ... aching.pdf

[Heruka]

All of those things, painting, poetry, artistic expression and even dharma talk are manifestations of the ground, path and fruit. it either stands up or it falls down, in reality it means not that much.

Wheres the problem?

[Heruka]

this will be more useful than their stuff


http://www.rinpoche.com/karmechagme/kar ... aching.pdf

to satisfy the intellect, of course.

[Heruka]

And who is their Guru?

just for fun mr G, what was the name of Gotama Siddhartas guru?

[Mr. G]

And who is their Guru?

just for fun mr G, what was the name of Gotama Siddhartas guru?

I don't know. I'm at work and don't have my books with me. Tell me, who?

[Mr. G]

All of those things, painting, poetry, artistic expression and even dharma talk are manifestations of the ground, path and fruit. it either stands up or it falls down, in reality it means not that much.

Wheres the problem?

The problem is they are openly talking about the visions they had while in meditation, and worse they are selling it for a profit.

[Heruka]

And who is their Guru?

just for fun mr G, what was the name of Gotama Siddhartas guru?

I don't know. I'm at work and don't have my books with me. Tell me, who?

well, first we have a gentleman named alara kalama who took siddharta as a student and taught the dhamma of samkhya, which gotama ultimately found unsatisfactory. we can also say that gotama probably learned yogic practices of patanjali, which were wide spread in the ganges at that time.

[Mr. G]

well, first we have a gentleman named alara kalama who taught the dhamma of samkhya, which gotama ultimately found unsatisfactory. we can also say that gotama probably learned yogic practices of patanjali, which were wide spread in the ganges at that time.

Heruka, I was aware of his non-dharma related teachers, and I'm sure they helped him on his path. What exactly is your point here?

[Heruka]

the point is exposure to such, never effected his enlightenment, but really sped it on.