Yeshe D. wrote: Adamantine wrote:
Why would Ray not teach his students the contents of his well regarded publications?
I have no idea Geoff, that is indeed the question at hand. it seems like something shifted dramatically in just a few short years. But there is certainly a large contradiction between many things he's saying in absolutes in these recent interviews and much of his earlier work.
I don't see a large contradiction. I don't see him denying karma or the postmortem continuum of consciousness. I see that he is promoting all of his previous Buddhist publications, and also some of his recorded teachings on duḥkha, the four noble truths, and the five precepts, etc., from his years of leading Dathüns, as well as the published works of Trungpa Rinpoche. He has even boxed and packaged a collection of his and CTRs books as a "Sūtrayāna Study Set."
All the best,
While I admire your perseverance, I am quite surprised you still have not been able to notice any contradictions between huge generalizations and absolute statements he has made in these interviews and more subtle and detailed writing and teaching work years prior. If he is still marketing published work from the past, this doesn't mean that it doesn't contradict what he is stating in the present. That tact of argument doesn't hold any water at all. If people want to buy those books, he will sell them, why not? He seems to appreciate the tradition, he just is discarding what he feels is irrelevant, and keeping what he likes-- modernizing it, or new-ageifying it, or whatever it is people like to do with Buddhism to make it unrecognizable and still keep the Buddhist label. He doesn't outright deny postmortem continuum of consciousness, that is correct- but he now leaves it completely open ended and vague though- enough to encompass a Christian heaven, a Greek or Zorastrian underworld, a Hindu moksha, a Wiccan summerland, etc. while at the same time invalidating all of them, since he states clearly that he feels ALL religions' claims to knowledge of afterlife will turn out to be bogus
. And this obviously includes Buddhism. So he is denying he believes in cyclic existence, transmigration through the 6 realms, etc. and we have already discussed that karma as Buddhists (not New Agers) understand it is completely unintelligible without these. In stating that nobody knows, he is also as a natural consequence denying that the Buddha was omniscient, and telling us that none of the highly realized Siddhas of India or Tibet had developed any special abilities to see into their previous or future incarnations. He is either denying outright, or positing an explicitly skeptical view about a huge portion of the traditional Vajrayana teachings on these things. I am going to stop repeating these points over and over, if you refuse to acknowledge them that is your right, but it appears to be a very willful refusal to face the facts of the situation.