Yeshe D. wrote:Adamantine wrote:I really think you need to put these quotes in their proper context, as I've pointed out before: CTR taught the Vajrayana and Maha Ati within the scope of the entire path, he outlined all 9 yanas in great detail: he was careful to contextualize everything so the Dharma was completely taught and transplanted here- not just part of it.
Alpha-purity -- Trungpa Rinpoche's translation of kadag -- is always prior to any notions of "Buddhism." This is why atiyoga is a complete yāna in and of itself. And alpha-purity cannot be institutionalized, domesticated, boxed and packaged.
You did at one point admit that Ray's use of language was unskillful in that interview. But now you're saying that he is teaching the original pristine Maha Ati in the same interview? I'm just not really getting that from it. There seems to be much more of an influence from western psychology :he refers to trauma almost constantly-- implying that we are all traumatized and we're unraveling our traumas continuously like layers of an onion in the course of practice.. does this sound like revolutionary pristine Dzogchen? It sounds relative to me. I bet if I were to re-listen to the interview I could pick out an excessive number of times that Ray is speaking fully in the relative, it's just a very Western-culturally-conditioned 'relative' that has little to do with the Buddha's teachings on the relative.
Anyway, speaking of lineage-less western friendly pristine teachings, what do you think of Eckhart Tolle Geoff? Do you find him to be the Garab Dorje of our time? He is certainly a marketing genius. A fantastic boxer and packager. Is it possible some Western Dharma teachers are copping his style to tap into that market?