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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:39 pm

Yes, well put.
It has been brought to my attention,( I should explain that I am a computer neophyte, therefore a Buddhist website neophyte ) that there are a small group of apparantly well known people who ( I am told ) go Buddhist website to website apparantly challenging whatever the prevailing school is. In the name of ..well whatever. I find this difficult to believe. Surely this cant be so ? Can there be people with so much time on their hands ?

I can only say that for me practising just one path calls for all of my effort, and all of my commitment. Which I gladly give. It is not though a matter of debate and discussion merely. Its to be lived and applied.
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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

Postby kc2dpt » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:49 pm

"Each system depends on it's own paradigm"

This is probably the best statement I have yet read on this topic.
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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

Postby Dan74 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:19 pm

I am probably not bringing anything really new to the discussion, but just to stress Buddha-nature is a teaching tool. It is something to be let gone of in due course. But before that it is something that is good to hold on to as we let go of more mundane things like the attachment to being right and to having the best vehicle of them all! So it is not atta/atman because it is clear in Zen that it is a provisional teaching.

So we practice to let go of attachments, including the attachment to Dharma and to Buddha-nature. Zen is a practice of abiding no where. Once the mind rests in a particular state, reification begins, the building of an identity begins, no matter how subtle. Just as people have said - arahatship is not an achievement of a state. There is no Buddha-nature there.

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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:28 pm

Well perhaps we in the Theravada can save you a little time and effort Dan74. I dont see any reason at all to accept that the Buddha taught that there is anything like a " Buddha nature ". So why not leave attachment to "Buddha nature" in the pages of the books where it is found, rather than accepting something that doesnt exist and then later detaching your self from it ? :smile:

You see I suspect that you think that we must somehow have a doctrine of Buddha nature but have somehow mislaid it.. :broke:
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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

Postby Dan74 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:39 pm

No, I suspect that the statement Peter quotes above is quite spot on.

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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:56 pm

OK so if we agree that each system has its own paradigm, what is to be gained from attempting to hybridise paradigms ? To what end ? What is lacking ?
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Re: Tathāgatagarbha and Buddha-dhātu

Postby Rui Sousa » Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:46 pm

I see the path to enlightening as a process of letting go imperfections by developing wisdom. In the end there is only the absence of imperfections.

Where is this "Buddha nature"?
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