I cant understand your question .retrofuturist wrote:Greetings CSEe,
What sort of animistic folk Dharma is that?CSEe wrote:They show more " BUDDHA" to us .
Maitri,
Retro.
Thks
Ee
I cant understand your question .retrofuturist wrote:Greetings CSEe,
What sort of animistic folk Dharma is that?CSEe wrote:They show more " BUDDHA" to us .
Maitri,
Retro.
CSEe wrote: Reading tons of books / listening to years of monk speach is only one of countless way and countless source to learn Buddha .
Why take long / boring / hard road ? Why takes a whole lifetime to learn something inside us ? Why we have to consider ourself greather than a smallest species like virus ?
Why is that a problem?2500 years after Siddharta's death and we still discussing on terms??
Showing off a talent for what, being able to read and attend teachings?Are we moving towards Buddha or stop at begining for " showing off" our talent ?
For many Buddhism is in fact practiced religiously, thereby it has become a religion, to some.buddhism is not a religion ,
No one is stopping you doing whatever you want, please be kind enough to realise that everyone is entitled to do whatever they like.I belief even Siddharta wish us to self explore why cant we ?
That is your opinon to which you are entitled, others choose to read, study, contemplate, meditate and attend teachings whenever possible.I belief knowning Buddha is a own self exploration and sharing others awareness will help to speed up this process .
Has anyone here suggested anything different?In Buddha we are all same and equal .
Why does it have to be either/or? -- either read or rely on intuitive knowledge?CSEe wrote: Reading tons of books / listening to years of monk speach is only one of countless way and countless source to learn Buddha .
Why take long / boring / hard road ? Why takes a whole lifetime to learn something inside us ? Why we have to consider ourself greather than a smallest species like virus ?
rainbowtara wrote:CSEe wrote: Reading tons of books / listening to years of monk speach is only one of countless way and countless source to learn Buddha .
Why take long / boring / hard road ? Why takes a whole lifetime to learn something inside us ? Why we have to consider ourself greather than a smallest species like virus ?
Everyone is free to do whatever they like. For many practitioners reading books and listening to teachings kindly given my monks is how the practitioner comes to a greater understanding of what Buddha taught, you do not have to read books or listen to monks.
Why is that a problem?2500 years after Siddharta's death and we still discussing on terms??
Not a problem sir , but when someone ask me to learn Buddha solely on books , well that is one of my reason .Showing off a talent for what, being able to read and attend teachings?Are we moving towards Buddha or stop at begining for " showing off" our talent ?
I belief many monks have thier views and when they claim to be " MASTER" of Buddhism , this can easily be mis-lead . Their views can be mis-lead to be a referral in Buddha so monks also human and is common sense when ego / selfishness take place ....this can be a ground of showing off and this will jeoperdize human search of Buddha .For many Buddhism is in fact practiced religiously, thereby it has become a religion, to some.buddhism is not a religion ,
Sir , at my current awareness I dis-agree infact I belief maybe that is one of the reason why siddharta's wish never materialised.No one is stopping you doing whatever you want, please be kind enough to realise that everyone is entitled to do whatever they like.I belief even Siddharta wish us to self explore why cant we ?
What I wish to discuss Sir, I NEVER SAID I WAS RIGHT
That is your opinon to which you are entitled, others choose to read, study, contemplate, meditate and attend teachings whenever possible.I belief knowning Buddha is a own self exploration and sharing others awareness will help to speed up this process .
Has anyone here suggested anything different?In Buddha we are all same and equal .
What sort of animistic folk Dharma is that?
Not me , is just my explaination I do understand a bit . Try to focus on topic not me ok . I am NOT the one call myself " MASTER or VEN " ok , .Su DongPo wrote:Why does it have to be either/or? -- either read or rely on intuitive knowledge?CSEe wrote: Reading tons of books / listening to years of monk speach is only one of countless way and countless source to learn Buddha .
Why take long / boring / hard road ? Why takes a whole lifetime to learn something inside us ? Why we have to consider ourself greather than a smallest species like virus ?
Why not do both?
Sir , When I say I prefer to learn Buddha not by reading texts ,many said I am wrong but I never said reading books is wrong or my way is right . I just say there are trillions of way and reading books is not my way . So pls dont be mis-understand me here , I want to discuss using simply English based on our awareness as you could based on your knowledge as your guide . Try to focus on my views not my way of getting it .When was the last time you found that something worthwhile that did not require a good deal of effort? I am sorry you think study is so hard, but I don't see a better way.
Who says we do consider ourselves "greater" than "lesser" beings? Actually, if you take the time to study, you'll notice how frequently Buddhists include the wish for all sentient beings to be liberated from suffering.
plwk wrote:What sort of animistic folk Dharma is that?
Ultimately. But guess what?But in Buddha there are no right and wrong
This quote from an Old Master, the late Ven Master Hsuan Hua has helped me a lot...just sharing here...Recently I had posted my views in many topics related to Buddhism and had received a harsh /offensive feedbacks from many people . They force me to read books / scriptures before posting my views , they accused me of trying to learn from them but too ego to ask them , some monk even call me names , in short many people here still do not close to understand me .
If your ideas aren't working, look within yourself.
If you are kind to people and they don't reciprocate, take a look at your kindness.
If you give people orders and they don't follow them, take a look at your orders.
If you pay respect to people and they don't return it, take a look at your manners.
From my own experience with many centres, temples, lay people or Monastics, it's not easy to break the ice and share one's ideas with others. It's a human problem, not the Dharma's problem. My problem.I was banned from this site ( and many other buddhish site ) simpily becouse I wish to discuss Buddhism without use any material / monk's teaching as referral but by our own awareness of what we learned / know about Buddha.
Ask yourself, each time you want to improve, change a bad habit: is it easy? is it fun? Let's be frank...I admit I dislike monk and dislike reading all Buddha's scriptures / books becouse to me all the words / termology used is too difficult . At my current awareness, I belief knowing Buddha is very easy , fun and interesting if we follow Siddharta basic tips . If hard / boring it must be wrong .
From the Ven Master Cheng Yen of Tzu Chi Buddhist Compassion Relief Foundation...Many monks claim that I am too ego to learn from them but they refuse to understand that maybe they are too ego to discuss with me.
From Tsem Tulku Rinpoche...Appreciate a compliment and face unkind words with understanding.
When we are criticized by someone, we should actually be grateful to that person.
Not everyone can see things the way you see it, so let it go. You can't see everything the way they see it either.
Hi Laura , please try to understand I haven start any discussion yet but was "rejected" simpily becouse of the way I choose to understand buddha . Yes ofcouse discussion is two way street but I NEVER said reading is wrong , reading /listening to monks speech / meditation is one of the trillions way lets not be any requirement to start discussion here .Ngawang Drolma wrote:CSEe, try to remember that you're at a discussion forum where people read and write. Therefore, you're going to be asked to read. So far I've only seen you purport your own ideas in three different threads without really listening to others. This is the same thing that happened at Dharma Wheel's sister site.
Discussion and debate are fine, but it has to be a two-way street. And no matter what people suggest or write to you you're simply continuing to say that we don't need the Buddha's teachings and we can reach liberation on our own. But this is a Buddhist forum. Like I suggested in a post at Dharma Wheel Theravada, if you find reading to be too difficult you might want to try some basic meditation. There are stories of people who have been spontaneously liberated, but you have to put some effort forth on your end to listen to others here, or do something on your own to move closer to your goals.
Which of the Buddha's teachings would you like to discuss?
Best,
Laura
Take a step back, listen to your own awareness, read back your own statement....what do you think this entire paragraph is saying?Before I enter Buddish website , I was hoping to discuss buddhism with other non-monk like myself who is interested to learn from each other awareness since from my past experience is impossible discussing any issue with monk .All the monk just want me to read books or thier own writting as a requirement before discussion. I cant even start to discuss any topic here all seems "reject" me just becouse I choose not to read / listen to any monk speach .
Interesting...as far as I have read what and how the responses have been, they are also 'sharing' with you on what they know best just like you are sharing yours...to be fair, since they are not you, is there an expectation to keep seeing statements that are only pleasing to your point of view?I didnt expect of such " rejection" here since I am of the opinion it is not important the way we understand Buddha but instead sharing on how much we know.
Sure, we are all owners of our own decisions and actions isn't it? As simple as that...For me , there are trillions way / trillions source why I have to choose the way I am not comfortable with ..right?
Sure, even when He was alive, His own senior disciple praised him and declare Him as this and that but the Buddha stopped him to ask if all of what he said was because out of mere respect for a teacher or because that was his true realization.Siddharta maybe dead for 2500 years or more and human still discussing on the terms of his "teaching" , maybe we are looking from different views in Buddhism . Maybe we should allow such teaching to be challanged to improve better understanding .
Again, this is just one view. Searching is neither limited to or teachers nor is it just about 'thinking freely'.Maybe by reading books or regards "master's teaching" is referral to Buddha , we stop searching .
Tell me, who placed the limitation? Who? Myself isn't it?Maybe if there is no limitation of learning Buddha , we had moved far-far ahead now . Maybe by associate books / monks/ culture / tradition with Buddha is our limitation to know Buddha .
My way, your way, this way, that way...at the end of the day, one will still have to walk the Way by ourselves...anywayAs you say there are many way to know Buddha so why bother to discuss my way right ? As I never say read book is wrong , or my way is right.
May your wish be fulfilled.I was hoping to discuss issue on Buddhism in order to helps me move to higher awareness.
I worry about how I get mistaken, what others do, it's their own responsibility. No one can force anyone to accept anything, that decision is completely in one's hands. That's why the Buddha advises one to not simply accept anyone's statements/actions but after careful consideration, if those qualities are skillful; blameless; praised by the wise; when adopted & carried out, it leads to welfare & to happiness, then one should enter & remain in them.But you see , many people can easily mistaken thier quotation / views is from Buddha simpily becouse they claimed as "Master" of Buddhism study.
It is I who should thank you for this chance of practising kindness and learning another perspective.Thanks alot your your kindness in sharing your views and I had learned alot .
Tilopa wrote:CSEe your posts indicate that you are indeed very confused and the truth is the only way to gain clarity is by studying the teachings of Buddha with some one who knows more than you. If you lack the basic common sense and humility to realize this then there is almost nothing to be learned from anyone on this forum or probably anyone anywhere. You seem to think you know it all. Perhaps I'm being too harsh but you come across as a troll and I'm not surprised you have been banned from other forums.
Ngawang Drolma wrote:Here is one:
Buddha said: "Not to do evil, to cultivate the good, and to purify the mind. This is the teaching of all the Buddhas."
Thoughts CSEe?