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Re: Is tobacco a drug

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Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:09 am

And I would also add I have seen the pain and unbelievable regret on the faces and in the voices of the smoking victims. There is no defense for smoking.

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Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby BlackBird » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:30 am

Conceded, on all points.
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Re: Is tobacco a drug

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Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:32 pm

Sorry, I haven't read through this whole thread but I'm popping in with my two cents.
Cigarettes send a small surge of endorphins to the brain. That's part of why smokers love it. Especially depressed smokers.

So in my book, it's a drug. A drug that I'm horribly addicted to.

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Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Annapurna » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:05 pm

Oh, dear! :(

If you like, send a PM and I tell you how I stopped.

I was most horribly addicted too.

One night, I woke up and thought:

3 am?...smoke one.
:jumping:

Lit a cigarette in bed and smoked it.

Because I'd fallen asleep before doing that, I held my arm up high into the air, and was so content with my cleverness, that I was sound asleep shortly after. :lol:

The cigarette fell.

Onto me.

Into my décolleté :shock:

I woke up from the pain, jumped up, hit my head on the wall, had the burning cigarette falling down further within my nightgown, was shaking my nightgown like crazy, because that damn thing was HOT!

I am not inventing this, but from my night gown....it fell into the small gap between the 2 beds, and I could see it glow and burn the carpet ...

I aimed well, and spit on it....out....


:rofl:

That was just one of the incidents that made me wish to stop...

...another was...taking a shower, and thinking the doorbell rang...

I turned off the water, and held my breath to listen if it rings indeed....nothing....

:?:

Back into the water, same sensation again....

It took me a while to figure out that my windpipe made this weird sound

:lol:



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Re: Is tobacco a drug

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Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Ben » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:10 am

I'd have to agree with Macavity. Nicotine doesn't have the same consciousness altering properties as alcohol, emphetamines, cannabis, heroin, cocaine etc.
Nicotine is definitely a very toxic poison, as per the extract from the PIM substance datasheet in one of my earlier posts, but being a poison doesn't necessarily mean that it intoxicates.
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Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby sundara » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:57 pm

Tobacco is a drug, I feel nausiating if the monks don't include that in the 5th precept , that's a big fault on Buddhism's part if they don't include that. Nicotine is a powerful drug. One drop of nicotine can kill a horse. Nicotine stupifies and it's harmful to the body. And also it's causing the 2nd Noble truth to work and hence make the 1st Noble truth to function.

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Re: Is tobacco a drug

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"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Five Years for Smoking!

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:18 pm



Never mind. He can do a bit more meditation than usual.
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Re: Five Years for Smoking!

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:49 pm

Greetings bhante,

It adds a new flavour to the term 'meditation cell'.

Metta,
Retro. :)
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Re: Five Years for Smoking!

Postby Aloka » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:53 pm

It doesn't say anything about breaking vows - are monks allowed to smoke/chew tobacco ? I thought tobacco was classed as an intoxicant.

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Re: Five Years for Smoking!

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