Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

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Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby sraddha » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:52 pm


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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby genkaku » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:56 am

Hi sraddha -- Teachings of whatever sort have at least a couple of dimensions: 1. The dimension that points out a direction and, perhaps, expands on the intellectual or heart-felt understanding of that direction. It is in this realm that people can wax 'ecumenical' or find meanings that overlap and point to a similar truth. 2. The dimension that asks the inconvenient question, "OK, there is a very good direction or truth, but what, precisely, IS that truth?" Not, "What philosophical or religious observations can I make, but what IS the reality of the truth I claim to love?" And it is in this realm, the realm of experience, that not even Buddhism is Buddhist.

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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:27 pm

I don't get it. What do you mean "Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings." Do you mean "how do we interpret the Parinibbana Sutta in the above quote?

I see it as demonstrating skillful means.

"I remember well many assemblies of patricians, priests, householders, ascetics and gods…that I have attended. Before I sat with them, spoke to them or joined their conversation, I adopted their appearance and their speech whatever it might be and then I instructed them in Dhamma’ (D II,109). The Buddha told his monks and nuns that when teaching Dhamma in foreign parts they should adopt the language of the people they were living with" (M.III,235).
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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby sraddha » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:25 pm

Hi all!

By Buddha's "non-Buddhist teachings" I mean teachings that are not a part of traditional Buddhist schools, but were given to others throughout the world by Buddha-- but these people did not know that it was Buddha who gave them the teachings, thus he says, "but they knew me not!"

These teachings are not complete as well, but Buddha gives it to them to "gladden them" enough to get them to heaven due to his compassion, and perhaps help them gain enough merit to understand Buddha Dharma eventually!

I understand the DN passage to mean the following:

in China Buddha appeared Chinese and spoke perfect Chinese,
in Greece, he looked Greek and spoke perfect Greek.
in the Middle east, he looked middle eastern!

:reading: Now I am actively looking for African teachings! Buddha in Africa! :spy:

Now Mahayana Sutras such as the Diamond Sutra states clearly, "ALL DHARMAS ARE BUDDHA DHARMAS"

and Lankaavatara sutra states he is called by people by a bazillion names (all names of God), but none of them know him in reality.

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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:40 pm

Ran across this old thread which means to me what several sutras say; that is, that a buddha or bodhisattva can appear as any person of any spiritual persuasion. Therefore Dharmic notions can appear, not exactly as Shakyamuni taught it in the suttas or sutras, but adjusted to fit the minds being taught.

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A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby Simon E. » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:08 pm

Why on earth was this considered worthy of necroing?
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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:19 pm

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:46 pm

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby Simon E. » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:48 pm

" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Buddha's non-Buddhist teachings!

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:50 pm

Well, I'm glad we got that straightened out.
Through Dzogchen we can really understand what God is and we don’t have to worry if there is a God or not. God always exists as our real nature, the base, for everybody. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu


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