YOU CANNOT POST. OUR WEB HOSTING COMPANY DECIDED TO MOVE THE SERVER TO ANOTHER LOCATION. IN THE MEANTIME, YOU CAN VIEW THIS VERSION WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW POSTING AND WILL NOT SAVE ANYTHING YOU DO ONCE THE OTHER SERVER GOES ONLINE.

Evolution and Intelligent Design/Creationism - Dhamma Wheel

Evolution and Intelligent Design/Creationism

Casual discussion amongst spiritual friends.
User avatar
clw_uk
Posts: 4655
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:36 am

placeholder1

Postby clw_uk » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:27 pm

Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:40 pm

it wasn't the ID part but what happens to people who legitimately stray away from what is accepted, but if you actually look at the film you would see what it is actually about.

EDIT
you may wish to see what the film is about before jumping to conclusions


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
clw_uk
Posts: 4655
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:36 am

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby clw_uk » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:53 pm

Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:28 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
clw_uk
Posts: 4655
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:36 am

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby clw_uk » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:03 pm

Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:36 pm

Like I originally said it was a related note not subject, this is a tobacco related thread where I am discussing a particular part of that subject not ID or creationism V's Evolution, although thankyou for proving my point Clw.

stray from the pary line your shouted down.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:40 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:53 pm


User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:54 pm


User avatar
clw_uk
Posts: 4655
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:36 am

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby clw_uk » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:55 pm

Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:05 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

placeholder

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:12 am


User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:30 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
clw_uk
Posts: 4655
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:36 am

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby clw_uk » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:41 am

Last edited by clw_uk on Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

User avatar
Ben
Posts: 18442
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:49 am
Location: kanamaluka

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:53 am

Gentlemen
Lets get back to topic - smoking.
Anything to do with intelligent design, feel free to start a new thread.
Thanks for your cooperation.

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..

User avatar
clw_uk
Posts: 4655
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:36 am

Evolution and Intelligent Design/Creationism

Postby clw_uk » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:59 am

Hey


Just creating this thread to clear up the Tobacco one



metta
Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Re: Is tobacco a drug

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:03 am

Monkey picks up poop, on first throw hits target on second throw missed target, still has poop on his hand, on realising slaps his own face!

in other words make sure you defend truth with nothing other than truth otherwise you are doing nothing other than distorting truth.

you both (tilt and clw) have shared personal views and opinions which are not necesarilly true in defence of your side! so how is that not distorting the truth?
or is truth personal opinions about a theories effect with no actual proof? or what some supposed intelectuals say?

Ehipassiko see for yourself


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
Cittasanto
Posts: 6524
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Ellan Vannin
Contact:

Evolution and Intelligent Design/Creationism

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:04 am

Last edited by Cittasanto on Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:14 am, edited 1 time in total.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

User avatar
Ben
Posts: 18442
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:49 am
Location: kanamaluka

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design/Creationism

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:13 am

ok guys
electro-macrame complete!
Cheers

Ben

EDIT: Ignore the previous individual post titles, we're actually in 'Evolution and Intelligent Design/Creationism
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..

User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design/Creationism

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:33 am



Return to “Lounge”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 13 guests

Google Saffron, Theravada Search Engine