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Re: Torma

Postby conebeckham » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:48 pm

Different Vajrakilaya sadhanas have different methods of torma offering.

Sangtik Purba, for example, requires a Glorious Torma which can signify both the deity, and the offering...and one adds "tebkyus," or little dough triangles, to the plate for each torma session. You can also just offer a plate of biscuits or cookies, daily--this is acceptable for daily practice for many yidams, as far as I can tell. Big, involved sadhanas like Zabdun Purba requires a lot of tormas, representing various deities and offerings.

I don't know the Yang-Pur practice really, aside from a glancing familiarity. I'd bet there's a permanent torma representing the deity, on the shrine. Maybe it's like Sangtik Purba, I don't know.

Rakta and Dudtsi or Men are usually refreshed, but not replaced....except perhaps if one is doing a big puja. You can buy rakta and dudtsi substances, or get them from a Lama. Dudtsi is fairly commonly distributed, but the rakta substance is harder to find. But you can find it for sale on-line, I just can't recall the vendor. For Dudtsi, you put the substance in with some alcohol--wine, vodka, whisky, whatever. For Rakta, I put the substance in with some strong black tea.

All of this is general advice, but such details are best learned from a master--each practice may have more precise requirements, etc.

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Re: Torma

Postby conebeckham » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:25 pm

Old thread....just re-reading.....

One comment: In Sarma, what is called "Men" or medicine is the same as the Nangcho, or Inner offering, and for HYT practice it's usually found on each practitioner's table, and used the way Yudron noted the Loppon uses it during group rituals. It's also, occasionally, and depending on practice, tasted personally.

Many Sarma yidams and other deities don't have Rakta offerings. But of course many Sarma lineages incorporate terma and follow Nyingma ritual procedures sometimes. So, it's all very specific to the sadhana one is engaged with....and I am only familiar with the Kamtsang as practiced in Tsurluk and, to some degree, PalpungLuk.

I wanted to clarify that we don't have three kapalas, for dudtsi, men, and rakta, to my knowledge, for any practice. However, we do have a torma called the MenTor, or medicine torma, that is found, usually, between what we call the "dudtsi" and "rakta" kapalas. This procedure, as far as I know, comes from Nyingma termas that we practice in Karma Kamtsang.
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It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
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Re: Torma

Postby Fortyeightvows » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:21 am

This is a great thread!
and I sort of hate to ask what feels like a dumb question, but...
Has anyone ever heard of smashing white bread into the shapes needed and then coloring it red?

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Re: Torma

Postby Sherab Dorje » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:09 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:This is a great thread!
and I sort of hate to ask what feels like a dumb question, but...
Has anyone ever heard of smashing white bread into the shapes needed and then coloring it red?
Yup! Bread (and wheat flour) tends to swell and deform. That's why oats are better. The finer ground the oats, the better!
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