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The danger of intolerance

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: The danger of intolerance

Postby cooran » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:29 am

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The danger of intolerance

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---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: The danger of intolerance

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The danger of intolerance

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Re: The danger of intolerance

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:05 pm

Hi Clive
remember the Lotus Blossoms the Buddha saw after his awakening!


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The danger of intolerance

Postby christopher::: » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:58 pm

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: The danger of intolerance

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:11 am

Philo Judaeus (of alexandria) who was a prominent hebrew philosopher warned against many of the things that have now been done with interpreting the bible, such as literal time-line of history, taking it literally instead of as being allegorical and others. the bible at the time of jesus was seen as containing two truths literal truth, and allegoric truth or truth expressed in a way which makes it easier to understand, these are especially aplicable to genesis and story areas of the bible.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The danger of intolerance

Postby Spiny O'Norman » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:08 am

I read a book called "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins recently, basically it's a critique of monotheistic religions. I found myself agreeing with a lot of his views. Is Richard Dawkins "intolerant" or is he courageous for challenging what for many is the status quo? I'm not sure the answer is a simple one.

Rick

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Re: The danger of intolerance

Postby christopher::: » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:55 pm

The role religion plays probably differs family to family and place to place.

I've only lived in 3 locations- NY state, Northern California Bay Area and now Fukuoka, Japan. I've met many Catholics, Jews, Protestants and Buddhists, some Muslims and HIndus. Most have been very flexible with their beliefs. They tended to have personal views that did not always coincide exactly with the mainstream views of their faith. That's one reason "new age" ideas like reincarnation are so widespread now, imo.

In the 1980s the Power of Myth series with Joseph Campbell was really popular, at least in NY and California. It was shown over and over again on PBS. Most of my friends and family have seen it. His whole point was to examine religious beliefs for deeper symbolism, common metaphors.

I've only bumped into a few people who believed that the teachings in the bible should be accepted as literal truth. So, i find myself more aware of commonalities then differences, usually.

The most striking thing for me has been how having faith in God is very much like going for refuge. People find great strength in their faith. Especially in NY, after 9.11, I felt this was true.
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: The danger of intolerance

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:25 am

I think the fringe or the closer to the fringe of mainstream views in an area the more vocal the subscribers are.

unfortunately the fringe like to look mainstream, and do everything they can to influence the majority.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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