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Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ? - Dhamma Wheel

Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

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Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby theY » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:45 am

Hi dear all,

I follow the news about Capitalism in Myanmar. I am worry a little bit in buddhism cycle status that may destroy by Capitalism.

In thailand, our bhikkhus can't memorize bhikkhunipātimokkha, can't memorize vibhaṅga, and lost our abhidhamma + vinaya study cycle**. They began since Capitalism came to thailand.

Our bhikkhu stop to memorize tipitaka and try to learn more in layman's subjects, since democracy had come.

Nowadays we have (fake) theravada bikkhunis who dress underpants, live alone when the fist sunshine come, and be ordained by mahāyāna-saṅgha T-T

So, I want to talk with you, Theravada-Buddhist, about this situation. How can we preserve that most strict, in dhamma and vinaya, country from Capitalist Effect?

How about buddhism situation in Myanmar?

How about the monastery plan?

Pā-Auk, Mahāvisuddhārāma will became tourist attractions, or not?

Myanmars Bhikkhus will lose their memorizing, or not ?

They always stick in dhamma and vinaya, or not ?


Let's discuss about above question, and another titles about Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism more.

Because we are on critical period--after second half of buddhist generation!

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**Thank you, bhadanta vilāsa, bhadanta jotika, who let abhidhamma back to thailand. But who will take back Vinaya, Bhikkhunipātimokkha, etc ?
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Tipitaka memorization is a rule of monks. It isn't just a choice. They must done it.
bahussuto nāma tividho hoti – nissayamuccanako, parisupaṭṭhāpako, bhikkhunovādakoti.

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Re: Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:58 pm

You seem to be very confused. Money has been around since the time of the Buddha. Anāthapindiaka was a very wealthy banker — was he not a capitalist? What about Mendaka and Visākhā? I don't think the decline of Buddhism has anything to do with capitalism or communism.

Whenever and wherever the bhikkhus are overwhelmed by greed, then their practice will degenerate. The very first bhikkhu who was responsible for the Buddha laying down the Vinaya rule regarding money was greedy for meat. Unable to control his greed for meat, he asked his supporter to give him the money that would have been used to buy meat, and went to try to buy some meat himself.

If the country is really poor and without basic freedoms like N Korea, would it be a place for the Buddhadhamma to thrive? If a country is prosperous like Singapore, would it mean that Buddhism couldn't be practised there?

Buddhism does seem to be declining in Asia, but it depends on where you look. Anyway, whatever the truth of the matter, its not something that is within our control. A very wise and devout Buddhist might make a small difference to his or her immediate family and community, but its not going to affect the general trend of an entire country.

Its best not to regard the faults of others, but to regard one's own faults.

Is our own practice of Buddhism declining or improving as the years go by? That is within our control — we have the choice to make more effort to abandon greed and anger, to gain wisdom and knowledge, generosity and kindness.
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Re: Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby Kamran » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:19 am

Theravada may benefit from the democratic reforms the way Islam has in Egypt and other countries.

I think Theravada has a popular base in Myanmar which would make its senior monks politically influential in a more democratic system.
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Re: Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby Mr Man » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:12 am

Is there universal suffrage in Singapore?

Is the army in Thailand "disciplined"?

Where has " scientism" been established" as a state religion"?

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Re: Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby theY » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:25 am

Do you know "5 kāmaguṇas" ?

Do you know status--hīna, majjhima, and paṇīta of them?

3rd council happened because many titthiyas came in buddhism to get 5 kāmaguṇas, right?

What is the status of nowadays's 5 kāmaguṇas when compare with buddhakāla's 5 kāmaguṇas, or roman's 5 kāmaguṇas?

5 kāmaguṇas can grow better in in capitalism or kingdom--at same resource (such as thailand and myanmar)?

Vajjī control system is like thailand or myanmar when compare with another countries at that time? Why 2nd council happened in that country?

Why budhism before 2500 b.e. must be dropper?

Why capitalism grown in buddhist country at that time?

Why thailand lost their buddhist learning system at that time (about 2400-2500b.e.)?

Can visākhā, anāthapindika see beyonce from youtube?

Real bhikkhu/bhikhunī, who learned in vinaya, know that they can't use underpants, or not?

Real bhikkhu/bhikhunī, who learned in vinaya, know that they can't be theravāda on nowadays, or not?


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However, capitalism system is the way to access kāmaguṇas, but buddhism is the way to get out off kāmaguṇas, right?

So, I'm not a anti-capitalism.

I'm anti at kāmaguṇas.

So, I will especially careful what system can grow kāmaguṇas up.

"Look backward and careful toward" is what I do.

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Tipitaka memorization is a rule of monks. It isn't just a choice. They must done it.
bahussuto nāma tividho hoti – nissayamuccanako, parisupaṭṭhāpako, bhikkhunovādakoti.

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Re: Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby James the Giant » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:43 pm

Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby Mr Man » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:39 am

So the US is a Neo-feudalist country?

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Re: Myanmar Buddhism VS Capitalism... Cross-Roads ?

Postby theY » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:14 am

Above message maybe out of date. Latest update will be in massage's link.
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Tipitaka memorization is a rule of monks. It isn't just a choice. They must done it.
bahussuto nāma tividho hoti – nissayamuccanako, parisupaṭṭhāpako, bhikkhunovādakoti.


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