T. Chokyi wrote:
My questions centrally revolve around the meaning of the word 'full' in this explanation of empowerment, since I have never thought the teachings and path presented by ChNN was lacking, or "not full".
I just wanted to stress that this idea of "fullness" has to do with going in the essence. Rinpoche says that DI and doing Guru Yoga, which you can learn and get transmission for from Rinpoche during the live broadcast, is indispensable.
Thank you so much for your response, it was certainly helpful in thinking about these matters. Being a member of the Dzogchen Community and taking part in in-person, open and closed webcasts, I thought I had a fairly decent grasp on what ChNN was saying in regards to empowerment and going in the essence. The 4 traditional empowerments being given the label "full" seemed to indicate that other forms of empowerment were incomplete in some fashion, though that inference is likely my mistake.
My understanding, as Malcolm pointed out earlier in this thread, was that Rigpa Tsal Wang is the root of all empowerments, and therefore, according to Dzogchen teachings, the heart of everything 'fullness' could possibly be. If I understood that bit of conversation correctly, for some people a sort of ripening is needed before the Rigpa Tsal Wang can be properly received, and that this is the point of the 4 empowerments in context of HYT. I am just wondering more about the Donwang and its relation to these things.
For instance, next week there is a Guru Amitayus teaching in the DC. I have been informed that the empowerment will not be broadcast. My assumption is that this is the because Rinpoche does not feel that it can be given as a Donwang, or Meaning empowerment. However, the teachings and practice will be broadcast in a closed webcast, seeming to indicate that for those who have received Rigpa Tsal Wang and the tridlung for this practice, it is enough for participation. They are not "partial" practioners, or somehow incomplete, if they truly understand the nature of the Direct Introduction. I hope that I have understood this correctly.
You're welcome. Don't worry to much about HYT or Donwang. Getting into the state of contemplation is what CHNN is genuinely about, he facilitates this for his students. In other words, when one sings the Song of Vajra (which I would recommend getting the lung for and singing everyday), one can enter what Rinpoche refers to as "the state of contemplation" and you can experience and recognize ones nature, you can experience that for yourself. CHNN is singing the song of Vajra with you live during the web cast, this is really a powerful way to transmit because you are opening your experience and have the genuine opportunity to "get into that state" right with Rinpoche and also all the Sangha world wide, you are going in that state, and relaxing into that state of contemplation and all at the same time. Song of Vajra, and the sounds, the syllables, these sounds "assist" or "help" place you there in that state, when you sound them, you are relaxing and just sounding those syllables, you are unifying your capacity to experience the "result" of the practice with the entire Sangha, with Rinpoche who is firmly in the state of contemplation, so this is the main point to feel that and taste that for yourself, this "result" is taken as the path.
If you have not been in a state of contemplation or experienced that yet, then hearing about it can be like someone who has not tasted sugar, for instance, hearing "words" describing all about what sugar tastes like but not knowing what sugar actually tastes like until the actual experience, so Rinpoche is facilitating that practice and "holding" in that state of contemplation so you can get your "taste" and know your nature, this is why you sing/chant the SOV (Song of the Vajra) you enter that "space" at the same time and you can get into that state, being in the state of your own real nature is the main point this is pith meaning of the Rigpa Tsal Wang and getting there for us means we make that effort. Learning to stabilize in that state of contemplation, so you can be in that sate during the day, during the night, while eating, throughout your 24/7, this is what Rinpoche is about, not so much HYT in the sense that you transform, although there are many practices from Rinpoche's teachers, many Ter from Changchub Dorje, and those Ter are primarily passed with the instructions the "secret way" without too much on the net, so they are closed, not so much because anyone is kept from anything, but those instructions for those particular practices are of course Annuyoga level, from Rinpoche's close teacher, and secret, those Ter are passed with pith instructions from teacher to student , but not "protected" or held back because anybody has any more or less of anything than anybody else, anyone can join the DC if they are interested, as you know, you can view the closed retreats or listen to the "re-runs" if you are a member, but with SOV you don't need to transform or generate anything, and CHNN has said that the Guru Yoga of White Ah and Tigle, also SOV gets you into that state so you go with him the same time he's doing that, it isn't considered "transformation" or HYT, and transformation or HYT as you have understood it so far, is not considered "superior" to the experience of getting into your nature or "the state of contemplation", getting into that state is the main point. I hope you understand and I didn't get too "wordy".