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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:50 am 
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pueraeternus wrote:
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The Vajramala is collection of template empowerments, so it is a full empowerment, but less elaborate than the two main traditions of Kalacakra (Rwa and Dro).


So would this upcoming book be something that would help?
http://www.amazon.com/The-Vajra-Rosary- ... ary+tantra

The synopsis indicates the text is mostly about the Guhyasamaja. Isn't this rather different from the Kalachakra (at least on the completion stage)? I am basing this on what I read from Daniel Cozort's book on Highest Yoga Tantra.



Vajramala is a tantra, it is also a collection of initiations by the Mahāsiddha Abhayakaragupta.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:07 am 
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Malcolm wrote:
Vajramala is a tantra, it is also a collection of initiations by the Mahāsiddha Abhayakaragupta.


Noted. Found this too. A dissertation that eventually became the book to be released August 2014.

Interpreting the Vajra Rosary: Truth and Method Meets Wisdom and Method - David R. Kittay
http://academiccommons.columbia.edu/catalog/ac%3A164409

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pueraeternus wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
The Vajramala is collection of template empowerments, so it is a full empowerment, but less elaborate than the two main traditions of Kalacakra (Rwa and Dro).


So would this upcoming book be something that would help?
http://www.amazon.com/The-Vajra-Rosary- ... ary+tantra

The synopsis indicates the text is mostly about the Guhyasamaja. Isn't this rather different from the Kalachakra (at least on the completion stage)? I am basing this on what I read from Daniel Cozort's book on Highest Yoga Tantra.


This is a different Vajramala from the one meant by Malcolm. The one meant by Malcolm is Vajramala - a collection of sadhanas by Abhayakaragupta. The book from you link is Vajramalatantra.


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dzoki wrote:
pueraeternus wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
The Vajramala is collection of template empowerments, so it is a full empowerment, but less elaborate than the two main traditions of Kalacakra (Rwa and Dro).


So would this upcoming book be something that would help?
http://www.amazon.com/The-Vajra-Rosary- ... ary+tantra

The synopsis indicates the text is mostly about the Guhyasamaja. Isn't this rather different from the Kalachakra (at least on the completion stage)? I am basing this on what I read from Daniel Cozort's book on Highest Yoga Tantra.


This is a different Vajramala from the one meant by Malcolm. The one meant by Malcolm is Vajramala - a collection of sadhanas by Abhayakaragupta. The book from you link is Vajramalatantra.


I see. Is this Vajramala the same as the Vajravali?
http://www.amazon.com/Tibetan-Mandalas- ... =vajravali

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pueraeternus wrote:
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I see. Is this Vajramala the same as the Vajravali?
http://www.amazon.com/Tibetan-Mandalas- ... =vajravali


Yes, vali and mala are alternate both translated as phreng ba into Tibetan.

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Malcolm wrote:
pueraeternus wrote:
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I see. Is this Vajramala the same as the Vajravali?
http://www.amazon.com/Tibetan-Mandalas- ... =vajravali


Yes, vali and mala are alternate both translated as phreng ba into Tibetan.


Thanks and ordered. :smile:

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pueraeternus wrote:
Recently I attended HHST's Kalachakra empowerment in NYC. I would like to further my study and practice, but could not find any books on Kalachakra specific to the lineage transmitted by HHST (majority are on the Gelugpa transmissions). Is there any book anyone familiar with the tradition can recommend? Or there is no great differences between the various Kalachakra lineages and I can just refer to any available in the market?


My Sakya teacher is about to start teaching from this book: The Ornament of Stainless Light. An Exposition of the Kalachakra Tantra, Khedrup Norsang Gyatso, The Library of Tibetan Classics. He received the transmissions for Kalachakra from HE Chogye Trichen Rinpoche and HHST.

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Punya wrote:
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Recently I attended HHST's Kalachakra empowerment in NYC. I would like to further my study and practice, but could not find any books on Kalachakra specific to the lineage transmitted by HHST (majority are on the Gelugpa transmissions). Is there any book anyone familiar with the tradition can recommend? Or there is no great differences between the various Kalachakra lineages and I can just refer to any available in the market?


My Sakya teacher is about to start teaching from this book: The Ornament of Stainless Light. An Exposition of the Kalachakra Tantra, Khedrup Norsang Gyatso, The Library of Tibetan Classics. He received the transmissions for Kalachakra from HE Chogye Trichen Rinpoche and HHST.


Where are you located?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:00 pm 
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To answer your question in a roundabout way the teacher is Zimwock Rinpoche.

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Punya wrote:
pueraeternus wrote:
Recently I attended HHST's Kalachakra empowerment in NYC. I would like to further my study and practice, but could not find any books on Kalachakra specific to the lineage transmitted by HHST (majority are on the Gelugpa transmissions). Is there any book anyone familiar with the tradition can recommend? Or there is no great differences between the various Kalachakra lineages and I can just refer to any available in the market?


My Sakya teacher is about to start teaching from this book: The Ornament of Stainless Light. An Exposition of the Kalachakra Tantra, Khedrup Norsang Gyatso, The Library of Tibetan Classics. He received the transmissions for Kalachakra from HE Chogye Trichen Rinpoche and HHST.


Noted and thanks. That is one of the books I am planning to study. I have resigned to the fact that there are probably no translated reference books on the particular Abhayakaragupta transmission HHST gave, so I will be studying the various books and papers available commercially (mainly the Gelugpa tradition).

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I would like to echo what Kirtu said several posts back. Check out the International Kalachakra Network. There is a wealth of resources there on Kalachakratantra from several lineages (not just Gelug). The public sections of the website are really helpful, but also note that if you have received Kalachakra empowerment you can request an account that will grant you access to the restricted sections of the site. There are more Kalachakra materials on that site then one could possibly read in a single rebirth. :smile:

You have to answer certain questions to get an account (like when, where, and by whom were you initiated, etc). This makes sense, as specific tantric techniques and so forth are restricted to those who received empowerment. I am not certain if there are texts or instructions specifically from the Sakya linage, but there is more material there then you might find randomly searching the web. Aside from my own teachers (who have graciously offered instruction and guidance) the IKN has been a wonderful resource for many things Kalachakra.

Another site to consider is Kalachakra.

Congratulations on your recent empowerment. May your practice be fruitful, all the way to Buddhahood!

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Just adding to my previous post, this is the form to request an account with IKN.

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Vajratantrika wrote:
Just adding to my previous post, this is the form to request an account with IKN.


Thanks. Actually I did sign up with IKN earlier, but found nothing relevant to the particular transmission given by HHST. It is still a very useful site in general.

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