USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

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USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Mr. G » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:29 pm

Just when we thought that buying “Organic” was safe, we run headlong into the deliberate poisoning of our organic food supply by the FDA in collusion with none other than the folks who brought us Aspartame. NutraSweet, a former Monsanto asset, has developed a new and improved version of this neurotoxin called Neotame.

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby plwk » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:32 pm

Ok I am getting out on the next flight to Mars... :tongue:
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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby kirtu » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:06 pm

mr. gordo wrote:Just when we thought that buying “Organic” was safe, we run headlong into the deliberate poisoning of our organic food supply by the FDA in collusion with none other than the folks who brought us Aspartame. NutraSweet, a former Monsanto asset, has developed a new and improved version of this neurotoxin called Neotame.

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I'm not sure if this is a credible source or not. BUT - I worked for USDA for many years. USDA is actually a transparent agency in the sense that you can always find a reason for an action. So:

The food labeling requirements required for aspartame have now been dropped for Neotame, and no one is clear why this was allowed to happen. Neotame has been ruled acceptable, and without being included on the list of ingredients, for:
USDA Certified Organic food items.
Certified Kosher products with the official letter k inside the circle on labels. (Janet Hull)


The food labeling requirements from USDA can always be determined (the actual chain of the ruling can always be determined).
One of the issues is that food safety is divided between the FDA and USDA and there has been some turf wars between the agencies. FDA has wanted to consolidate all the activity in FDA and over time this appears to be happening. But USDA activity wrt to rulings and determinations can always be traced.

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Mr. G » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:38 pm

Oh, so do you think this is just scare propaganda Kirt? If so, I apologize for posting this without further background research.
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Postby kirtu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:35 pm

I have no idea. People have agendas and this distorts an accurate picture of many situations (remember I live in a city dominated by deception). The USDA definition of "organic" is overly broad. I have no idea how this chemical might affect people, etc. However practically anything done by USDA really can be traced to an office and a person can discuss this decision with someone and they can always get the USDA side of things in detail.

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Heruka » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:34 pm

you need to read the food saftey bill that just passed into law, (very quietly over holiday period).

its scope is shocking.

most yuppies dont realize how late in the day it is and how dark its getting.

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Heruka » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:36 pm

btw, most organic milk has been double pasturized, which means all its natural goodness has been destroyed and if you look, they have to add vit D and so on.
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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Heruka » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:41 pm

im not 100% sure but i understand Aspartame is the defication of bio engineered bacteria, a toxic waste from bio weapon research. LOL but thats a conspiracy right? I mean who wouldnt want to actually reaserch that?
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Postby Blue Garuda » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:55 pm

The UK is littered with 'Farm Shops' which are really just supermarkets in sheds run by farmers as a sideline.

I live near one which sells 'organic local' produce. Judging by the supermarket and unmarked delivery vehicles, I think 'organic' means 'once had organs' and 'local' means 'local to Spain'.

How can people be so dumb as to fall for a folksy image, especially when a quick look at the fields would show them the truth?

We also have enshrined in law that the 'country of origin' is the country where the last process was carried out, so our local 'farm shop' can sell its English sausages which are actually all minced beef from, say, Poland, with skins put on in the UK.

Fruit and veg, especially when processed, could be anything but 'organic'.

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Heruka » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:28 am

Heruka wrote:you need to read the food saftey bill that just passed into law, (very quietly over holiday period).

its scope is shocking.

most yuppies dont realize how late in the day it is and how dark its getting.

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Ogyen » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:24 am

Heruka wrote:im not 100% sure but i understand Aspartame is the defication of bio engineered bacteria, a toxic waste from bio weapon research. LOL but thats a conspiracy right? I mean who wouldnt want to actually reaserch that?


Indeed, at body temperature it aspartame becomes slightly toxic. It was used as an experimental bio weapon, this is indeed documented, afaik, I studied it in college.

There are many things to hide that would incense the public. Most quiet legislation has already crept in. Look at healthcare reform's dirty little secrets.

Oh, and btw, serious government and financial usury is being implemented at a legislative level for crap product/delivery to the public. We've been fed fat and bloated like the cows we eat, and the regulatory system is collapsing. By design. Drastic changes will take place over the next 10 years. The decisions made, the laws passed, the people still snooze or fitfully avoid the horrors befalling this country.

You think it's bad now in America, people are sleeping through this crap like it's not happening, with their iphones and ipads. But the truth is time's a-tickin' and waitin' for no one. And the foxes are dancing around the hens.

The world you knew is disappearing fast. The world taking its place is a very different one. May the hardship be proportionally equal to its realization. You cannot blame the cause on the symptom. My heart breaks and my resolution strengthens to find a way to make this darn world a better place.

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Lhug-Pa » Wed May 16, 2012 8:45 pm

:good:

Lhug-Pa wrote:When possible, go Organic or at least non-GMO; because unless you're a Mahasiddha/Vidyadhara or on the verge of being one, there's going to be a HUGE difference between artificial-preservative pesticide-laden conventional food and natural healthy non-GMO/Organic food.

Just make sure that your "organic" isn't sold by companies who lobby to try to reduce organic standards, and/or who support big pharma, big oil, and possibly the military industrial complex. :spy:

http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com ... r-food.php

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The Organic Elite Surrenders to Monsanto: What Now?


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They may not have actually completely surrendered, but they most definitely compromised. :x
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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Quiet Heart » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:57 am

kirtu wrote:I have no idea. People have agendas and this distorts an accurate picture of many situations (remember I live in a city dominated by deception). The USDA definition of "organic" is overly broad. I have no idea how this chemical might affect people, etc. However practically anything done by USDA really can be traced to an office and a person can discuss this decision with someone and they can always get the USDA side of things in detail.

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Not trying to be slow.....but are you saying that the real problem is that the USDA is more transparent....that their decsions can be traced to a "someone responsible" for that decision....but the FDA doesn't have such transparency?
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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Dave The Seeker » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:50 am

There are many things that are allowed in "organic" food production.

As a beef producer, I know that many of the stronger medications we use are now allowed in organic beef production.


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Re: USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

Postby Lhug-Pa » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:34 pm

The "handiwork" of Barmitt Obomney & company:



Susanne Posel wrote: http://occupycorporatism.com/stanford-a ... opulation/

...In addition, Stanford has multiple ties to GMO giants such as Monsanto of whom they receive funding from that totals an estimated half billion dollars.

Susan J. Colby, chief executive officer for the Clayman Institute for Gender Research, previously served as co-president for Monsanto’s Sustainable Development sector.

Presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, who attended Stanford University during 1965 – 1966, worked for Monsanto as a client and has Monsanto lobbyists working on his campaign for President.

Residue from pesticides measured from organic produce compared against conventionally grown food, using the same data collected by Stanford researchers, showed that they omitted findings that proved the organic food is scientifically proven to be healthier because of the lack of exposure to pesticides.

According to the study, the consumption of pesticides is less of a risk as imagined. Because the Environmental Protection Agency lays down guidelines, the exposure of humans to pesticide consumption may be less when ingesting organic food, but its benefits are negligible.

In the data gathering for the Stanford study, the researchers purposefully excluded previous studies and research that did not “meet their criteria for scientific rigor”....


It's not surprising that the two presidential candidates who receive the most support from the corporatist media 'both' pose a threat to healthy organic food.

The USDA doesn't seem to be quite as much as a threat to organic food as the FDA is.

Hopefully the USDA will improve and be willing & able to resist pressure from Monsanto.

The FDA just needs to get dissolved altogether.

Although maybe they both need to go, I'm not totally sure yet....
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