Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling by Vajrayana Buddhist Council

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Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling by Vajrayana Buddhist Council

Postby youtan » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:42 am

Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling
by Vajrayana Buddhist Council of Malaysia (VBCM) 马来西亚金刚乘总会 on Sunday, January 2, 2011 at 5:07pm


Thank you Ms Sim Soo Ling for your input and your interest to promote the Buddha-Dharma in Malaysia.

In your statement, you have made some factual errors:

(1) If you have read the circular carefully, you would realise that the circular was issued by Malaysia Buddhist Consultative Councils (MBCC) (which is made up of many National Buddhist Organisations, of which VBCM is only one of the member organisations) and not by VBCM alone; and

(2) The circular merely stated that the MBCC does not "support" the event, but it is still up to the public to decide. As stated in the press statement, "the MBCC do not agree with the practice of any party who circulate the proclaimed “Buddha relics” commercially either through sales or donation". We think all Buddhists will agree with this statement. Don't you think so?

We are however in agreement with one of your statement - we are not police and every Malaysian has his/her own religious freedom. As a Buddhist council, it is both our duties and our rights to inform Buddhists and the general public to be careful of any deviant groups. At the same time, as a Malaysian organisation, such deviant groups have a right to exist, as long as they don't get caught breaking the laws of Malaysia.

We are not against freedom of religion, but we must call an "apple" an "apple". If an association called itself a "buddhist" organisation, and in fact it is NOT. Then as Buddhists, it is our duties to point out to the public the fact. One should not confuse the "freedom of religion" with the "freedom to confuse the public".

As a council, we have done our duty to inform the public to be careful in relation to the activities of such group or any other deviant group which misuses the name of Buddha-Dharma. For those in the public who have the wisdom, can always check with reliable friends so that one do not get con easily. Once a person is conned and sucked into a spiral web of negative karma, it will be very hard to free oneself from this unfortunate situation.

May you use your own wisdom to check this situation carefully. If you ask yourself honestly, in your heart, we trust that you will know which is right and which is wrong.

Thank you and Happy New Year!

Yours sincerely,

CEG & PCH

(on behalf of VBCM)

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Statement issued by Ms Sim Soo Ling

Dear Vajrayana Buddhist Council of Malaysia (Registration number 749),

Re: Discouraging Public from Attending Kadhampa Buddhist Association's Relics Exhibition in Malaysia

Everyone respects His Holiness the Dalai Lama, but not everyone who re...spects him needs to follow his views, thoughts or even his school and tradition of Buddhism. The VBCM has no authority from the Dalai Lama or any religious figure to be the police of Buddhism in Malaysia.

You are a group of lay people who are not ordained, do not hold monastic vows nor live a life of Buddhism to be able to judge others. Just because you go to Dharamsala, take a few pictures with the Dalai Lama and receive one or two letters from some of his people, does not mean you have the authorization to say, command, dictate or authorize anything in our country. Malaysia is a democracy that upholds the unity of its people, and not segregation.

Secondly, we are protected by the law to practice any religion of our choice that we like. Our government permits this. The Dalai Lama, his group of people and the Tibetan exiled government have no authority in any way in our country. Remember – we are Malaysians, we follow Malaysian law and the law allows us to practice what we wish.

You should stop sending out flyers and distributing information in any way which discourages people from going to any other religious organizations besides your own. For example, I refer to the recent notices you have been sending out discouraging people from attending the Kadhampa Buddhist Association’s Buddha Relics & Tibetan Antiques Exhibition at Bukit Jalil. If you continue to send circulars like this, then everyone else will be forced to report you for disunity and creating disharmony. This is what it is all about. Or is it that you wish to damage any competition?

I am not interested in your organization. Frankly, I have no respect for your organization because of your political actions. Tibetans already have so many politics, do not bring Tibetan politics to Malaysia.

You are dragging your people down and your promotion of your lamas are also tainted due to your political actions.

Please desist from these types of negative activities in the future and start practicing compassion, forgiveness and tolerance. It is the right of every single Malaysian to practice whatever religion they choose.

Sim Soo Ling

CC Jabatan Pendaftaran Pertubuhan Malaysia / Registrar of Societies
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Re: Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling by Vajrayana Buddhist Council

Postby plwk » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:56 am

We are however in agreement with one of your statement - we are not police and every Malaysian has his/her own religious freedom. As a Buddhist council, it is both our duties and our rights to inform Buddhists and the general public to be careful of any deviant groups. At the same time, as a Malaysian organisation, such deviant groups have a right to exist, as long as they don't get caught breaking the laws of Malaysia.

Tibetans already have so many politics, do not bring Tibetan politics to Malaysia.

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Re: Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling by Vajrayana Buddhist Council

Postby Mr. G » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:58 pm

As a Buddhist council, it is both our duties and our rights to inform Buddhists and the general public to be careful of any deviant groups.


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Re: Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling by Vajrayana Buddhist Council

Postby heart » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:23 pm

One should not confuse the "freedom of religion" with the "freedom to confuse the public".


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Re: Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling by Vajrayana Buddhist Council

Postby Tsongkhapafan » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:34 pm

From the website of the deviant group'

We want to help all living beings to be liberated from sufferings. Just like the sun and moon, throughout day and night, sweep away darkness and defilements and brighten up the whole world. Also like a huge tree blocking away our sufferings of body and mind and allowing us to become peaceful and enter nirvana.

It sounds 'deviantly Mahayana' to me :thumbsup:
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Re: Response to Ms Sim Soo Ling by Vajrayana Buddhist Council

Postby Mr. G » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:51 pm

OK, so I think both parties views here have been expressed. If there are no objections I will lock this thread for the time being. Thanks for your input all.
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