Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

Postby justsit » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:35 pm

OK, Kirt, let's get busy. It doesn't even have to be a convent, just a big 'ole Victorian, with all systems up to date in mostly working order, a little land, ideally not too far from a lama (Frederick area??). It's out there; I'll start looking.

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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

Postby Huifeng » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:18 am

For any sort of community like this, the external hardware of buildings - shrines, rooms, kitchens, etc. - is the easiest part. The challenge comes with the meeting of a variety of living beings who are subject to craving, aversion and ignorance in varying degrees, and how they live together! It requires a high level of maturity on the part of most, if not all, to make it succeed.


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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

Postby Luke » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:04 pm

Most people here seem to be talking about the usual idea of rural utopian Buddhist communities. However, I think that it's equally possible to create successful urban Buddhist communities.

The previous sangha I was involved with has a center in the city which is isolated from the main street because you have to go through a doorway and walk down a path through a narrow courtyard with apartment buildings on either side to get there. Anyway, I once a heard a member of this sangha say that they were planning to buy out the apartments surrounding the temple and rent them out to sangha members, which I think is an interesting idea.

This is one way to create an urban Buddhist community. There are probably others.

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Postby Aemilius » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:31 pm

Maybe you should also investigate what kind of "utopias" are there in buddhism?
Historically as buddhist movements, as principles for the existence of spiritual communities, as principles for running the state, and so on... ?
King Ashoka did manage to make advanced humanistic principles concrete realities. Just as an example, free health care is an ashokan idea that he created and put into practice. Something similar has sometimes existed in China and other buddhist countries, usually for limited timeperiods.
On a theoretical level we have the Purelands, and we have the Golden Age at the beginning of the present kalpa. These can be seen as Utopias in the european sense of the word, although they are normally seen as concretely existing states or realms, far distant in time, or far distant in space and in conciousness.
What do you wish to say when you say "utopias"?
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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

Postby Ngawang Drolma » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:08 pm

Kirt, that is really neat :twothumbsup:

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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

Postby Indrajala » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:11 am

I don't know about America, but in Canada as I understand it you can still homestead.

Basically, you find some crown land and petition the government to grant it to you on the condition you clear the land and build a home there.

I imagine it would be virgin soil and it'd be rough pioneer style. You'd be literally out beyond nowhere. Not a sign of civilization.

If you had a bunch of energetic people willing to build an oldschool lodge and clear land it wouldn't be difficult at all. It would probably be fun (except for the mosquitoes).

I imagine if one could actually organize this you'd get media attention and volunteers.
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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

Postby catmoon » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:37 am

I don't know about the rest of the country, but they shut down the homesteading thing here a long time ago, maybe 25 years ago. So if you want to try in BC, sorry, no dice.
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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: Modern Buddhist Utopias & Alternative Communities

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche


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