JKhedrup wrote:For example, why are the bodhisattva vows transmitted separately to monks and nuns, if they are similar to the bodhisattva vows of laypeople?
Does someone who took the sramanera ordination have to take it again when he participates in the "Triple Platform" to become a bhikshu?
How common is it for people to go through the Triple Platform again to renew their vows?
Is the text of the procedure available in the English language?
plwk wrote:I really wonder if the mark burning is necessary anymore these days as it was back then, both for the Vinaya & Bodhisattva Sila recipients, since neither texts prescribe it?
Two things I had in mind...I'm not sure what you actually mean by "necessary".
Well, for years, various lay and monastics alike seems to imply that for me, as if this practice is an integral 'rite of passage'. But yes, I am quite aware of those who make it an option but I am more interested in tackling with those who still insist on it. Like at one time, there was a widespread belief here that the Bodhisattva Sila was only for monastics and the aged and that the laity can't even read or touch its source texts like as if they are Tantric stuff. Thanks to some conscientious teachers, it took time to correct these misconceptions, like the nagging issue of joss paper burning. I would concede on one point though, that this kind of info passed around could be the work of the less informed, made into some kind of gospel truth, like many other religious myths passed around in Buddhist circlesIs there some implication that without the jieba the ordination is somehow not valid? For I have not heard of such a position at all. Moreover, in many places nowadays they are either not made, or are optional. For example, in the PRoC they are officially banned. Though many still do them anyway. In Taiwan, some places make them entirely optional, or, option of between head, forearm, or none at all.
Is there a specific text recited for the transmission of the bhikshu/bhikshuni vows?
Are the Bodhisattva precepts transmitted according to the Brahma Net Sutra, or something else?
JKhedrup wrote:What are the commonly performed rituals during the days of the ordination that do not involve the actual transmission of the precepts? What would be the shortest block of time in which a Triple Platform ordination would be conveyed?
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