Kunzang Tobgyal wrote:His teaching style is very different than Chogyal Namkhai Norbu. But when it comes to dzogchen, real dzogchen masters teach real dzogchen.
I 100% agree and am definitely not questioning the authenticity of either Master's Dzogchen realization. I just didn't want to over-simplify the question by just saying "all Dzogchen masters teach real dzogchen". When it comes to style
, some teachers sit and talk with students, some give them the silent treatment for years and speak in riddles, others lecture regularly, some have structured classes, and some (sadly) don't speak your language, etc. Not that one is ultimately better than the other, but while teachers may be highly realized, students are not, and since no one can do the work for you on the path to attainment, it's important to be real about what kind of communication you need as a practitioner.
That's the only reason I was asking about Khenpo Sonam Tobgyal's style... I'm not married to ChNN style, but between him and Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche, those are my only points of reference for Dzogchen so far. I'm very
encouraged by the recommendations in this thread (especially from Kunzang Tobgyal, whose been studying with him since 1996!!) I had a sneaking suspicion that he was just one of those amazing "hidden masters" with a gentle and profound style.
This conversation makes me feel very
fortunate to have him just a 10 minute streetcar ride away!! If those aren't conditions for a precious human life, I don't know what is, haha....
Before Ninakawa passed away, master Ikkyu visited him. "Shall I lead you on?" Ikkyu asked.
Ninakawa replied: "I came here alone and I go alone. What help could you be to me?"
Ikkyu answered: "If you think you really come and go, that is your delusion. Let me show you the path on which there is no coming and no going."