spiritnoname wrote:Luke, there are few things that offend me like alcohol and drugs, but it doesn't change the tantras,.. I've got no word in this matter, I can't change it, pointless to try to convince me.
Who said I was talking to you? I mean I don't mind talking to you, but I was replying to Individual.
The story I posted above about Gampopa and Milarepa should be viewed in context. Gampopa drank one cup of strong beer with Milarepa, which had great symbolic significance. Then Gampopa begin intense meditation training under Milarepa's guidance which resulted in him attaining enlightenment, but I don't think he drank at all during this period of time.
So I think the lesson is to accept small amounts of alcohol from one's lama during certain rituals and that other alcohol consumption has no positive effect on one's practice.