Eckart Tolle - master of the park bench

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Postby duffster1 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:25 pm

One doesn't have to identify with a dzogchen lineage or any other lineage to abide in the natural state.

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Postby padma norbu » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:34 pm

is it just me or did it sound like dzogchen, though? When I dusted off and read that bit of Naturally LIberating Whatever You Meet by Khenpo Gangshar again, I was kind of like "huh." I was also glad to have done so because it describes rigpa so succinctly.
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"Use what seems like poison as medicine. We can use our personal suffering as the path to compassion for all beings." Pema Chodron

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“Not till your thoughts cease all their branching here and there, not till you abandon all thoughts of seeking for something, not till your mind is motionless as wood or stone, will you be on the right road to the Gate.”

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Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:07 pm

I don't have anything against Tolle and I've never heard about any abusive behavior on his part. I read "The Power of Now" and I don't remember there being anything harmful in there, and I imagine that many people would probably benefit from reading it and taking it to heart. That said, I've often wondered why he's become so popular. His teachings don't seem particularly original, and he's not exactly what I would call charismatic. How did he become such a superstar?
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Postby greentara » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:37 pm

dzogchungpa, If you are surprised by his popularity is no surprise. His fortune changed when Oprah endorsed him to her adoring fans.
Many of these so called 'new' teachers are only too happy to prey upon the gullible and revel in name and fame.
All his teachings have been cherrypicked from Buddhism and Advaita.

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Re: Eckart Tolle - master of the park bench

Postby Lindama » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:40 pm

would you say that about any buddhist?

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Postby padma norbu » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:52 pm

greentara, would you rather he cherry-picked from Wicca and Islam? Why wouldn't he accept Oprah's offer, if he felt these were good teachings to benefit people?

I think people forget that Buddha was not a traditionalist.



I'm not really comparing Tolle to Buddha, but I find it weird how people are so quick to jump to the conclusion that he's got no bodhicitta and is merely an opportunist liar. So far, I haven't seen any evidence to support the putdowns. I guess people must think Tenzin is a conman, too, since he discusses Tolle's concepts in his work.
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Re: Eckart Tolle - master of the park bench

Postby Lindama » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:56 pm

say, awakening is beyond it all

amazed that we judge those by one standard... another religous war, eh?

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Re: Eckart Tolle - master of the park bench

Postby greentara » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:06 pm

Padma norbu, "Why wouldn't he accept Oprah's offer, if he felt these were good teachings to benefit people?" Well if only he was doing it to benefit people? If only he had no other motive!
Padma discrimination is always needed when dealing with a teacher. How much is he charging and are his talks nothing but a huge money making venue? Work it out for yourself, I think its best to say no more.


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