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Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

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Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby cupertino77 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:53 pm

I have read books (i.e. their talks) by Ajahn Chah and Ajahn Sumedho. I like a lot of what is being said there. I am looking for some feedback on one question. Let's assume a certain level of awareness is being established. It allows to be liberated (or at least get an idea of it). What I have not been able to understand is why bother at all. Why get up in the morning? What for?
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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby perkele » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:58 pm

Because it's uncomfortable to lie around like a dead corpse all day, although you are still alive.

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:14 pm

Yeah, your back would probably hurt after a while.

But I don't quite get the question - enlightenment or otherwise drastic spiritual progress does not make one lethargic or apathetic. It just makes one aware.

Why stay in bed? Why get up? Why do anything? Probably, in the Buddha's case, due to his great compassion and joy.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby cupertino77 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:54 pm

Often a nihilistic view is still present when I deal with things. Reading Ajahn Chah's teaching and trying to be aware has moved this attitude to a more neutral view - but it is certainly not close to compassion or joy.
Why taking on the next project or task (no self, impermanence)? Just to busy myself because I am still alive? Awareness can create boredom with things.
Any thoughts?

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Postby Birgit » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:50 pm

Getting up in the morning to join other people, to join your family, your friends, society, to talk with them about the Dhamma and the Buddhas teachings among other things (perhaps you can influence the direction impermanence is developing to) and then practising meditation to end suffering and leading others to this peaceful way of living!
You, just as you are, can meet life on its own terms, taking delight in that which is enjoyable without clinging to it while also living with what is difficult and unpleasant without contracting into resistance to it. To dance with life is to meet life on its terms to be at ease, even enjoy the ever-changing interplay without clinging. Philip Moffit: Dancing with Life page 91/92

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby manas » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:59 am

Hi cupertino77

I try to see it that even lying down and doing nothing is an active choice on our part. And, from moment to moment as we live out our lives, however short or long they be, every choice we make is like a seed we are planting, a tendency we are strengthening just by exercising it. So I am trying to remember to plant good seeds rather than bad ones, to little by little exercise wholesome, positive qualities rather than defiled ones, because every little action we do has an effect, either now, or later on at some stage.

I'm far from perfect in fully practicing this, but I am aware of it, and it keeps me from doing too much harm. Even if it just helps keep me out of hell it will have proven it's worth.

:anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby DAWN » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:15 am

Because your mind is clear and smooth
I am getting up at 3am, and it's my favorite moment in the 'day', when whole town sleeps, when there is calm. when there is silence... it's the most peacefull moment... very free... i dont know how explain that.... :roll:
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Postby Annapurna » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:41 am

http://www.schmuckzauberei.blogspot.com/

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby Annapurna » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:09 pm

I don't understand. Could you please explain how Vipassana gets my customers served and my bank account filled?

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby Hanzze » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:21 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby Gaoxing » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:27 pm

Sounds like a lot of Atta.

:zzz:

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby Hanzze » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:29 pm

Well, I guess we are all here for awakening, somethimes a pinguine helps, sometimes not. Who like to continue to sleep if not an atta?
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Why getting up in the mornig? What for?

Postby DAWN » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:53 pm

Most difficult is the firts meters, between bad and shower :toilet:
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