tamdrin wrote:Yes Kirt,
I and I think Tilopa were being sarcastic. But all jokes aside why don't Lama Zopa consider him a valid teacher? I mean I think it was pretty cool of him to come out with his girlfriend b/c as it turns out many lama's who pretend to be monks to the public secretly have relationships (especially with western women)
That wasn't the actual issue and I don't especially want to start a controversial thread. Roach is alleged to have attained some non-mundane degree of enlightenment (this wouldn't be a problem either if it had been kept privately), the intimate relationship is justified because he claims his gf is Vajrayogini, apparently for real, not as an emanation of some sort, and became a co-teacher at his desert retreat, but most importantly he is seen as teaching a non-orthodox views and combining Christianity and Buddhism. Hopefully he has not really done this but this is the claim.
None of this is insurmountable except for his apparent non-orthodox teaching apparently combining Christianity and Buddhism. So Lama Zopa is alleged to have challenged him to manifest the traditional signs and Roach has declined. None of this would really have come up publicly but some people asked about the traditional basis of his teaching and then this came out. Roach's teaching prior to going on the retreat around 1998-1999 out in the desert are considered valid.